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I'm a big fan of his work in Team America:World Police, Fahrenheit 9/11 was pretty good too, a bit extreme but it was still good.
Um, he didn't direct Team America. He only does documentaries. That was Matt Stone and Trey Parker.
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Um, he didn't direct Team America. He only does documentaries.
Then you need to go watch Canadian Bacon immediately. An entertaining movie.
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Re: Fans Of Michael Moore

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Um, he didn't direct Team America. He only does documentaries. That was Matt Stone and Trey Parker.
He made a guest appearance in the movie, however.

Yeah, I'm a fan of Michael Moore, I like his style of documentary and my political views are aligned with his.
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Presenting facts objectively without editorializing or inserting fictional matter, as in a book or film.
I don't like his style of "documentary". There is nothing objective about his films and calling them documentaries is misleading and wrong.

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calling them documentaries is misleading and wrong
I agree... I am going to school to become a documentary film maker and when we attended our first class the professor out right told us that if we were to ever make anything like his he would flunk us out of the class. He goes about making his movies the wrong way and is out to hurt people. Documentaries are not souppoused to do that... they are made to inform people.

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This does not necessarily mean they are not also documentaries. Being a documentary just means presenting facts.
Although I agree on this statement Moore's facts are bogus and they cannot be backed up. Take a look at his movies and then go to the "sources" he uses. When my debate team looked up his research nearly 45% of the sources are not there and another 20% are in places that provide a lot of false infornmation.

But in general I am glad that his work is out there. It is a good thing for other people to see. Even though I hate some of the movies (Bowling for Columbine is pretty good)... they cause people to think and maybe will even inspire others to do research on things that they too feel passionate about. Hey... maybe if I am lucky there will be a larger market for documentaries in the future.

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Re: Fans Of Michael Moore

I respect his opinions, but I hate the way he presents them. He takes advantage of ignorant minds, by presenting a one sided argument where nearly all of his arguments can be shot down if only given a chance.

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Re: Fans Of Michael Moore

In every editorial, there exists at least a bit of truth. There is virtually nothing composed of pure fiction, most begins with an ounce of truth. Of course it would be ridiculous to present an editorial as pure fact. There is nothing that is pure fact in this world. Everything that exists is presented with a bit of opinion, I don't care if it is Michael Moore's films or a news report on the grass growing outside the station's building. Everything spoken by humans includes opinion. I find Michael Moore's work to be good because it presents a view on situations than people may have seen before. The only way that people can be truly intelligent and educated is if they look at all sides of the situation, bo matter which they believe at the end of their research. Don't close off your mind to any possibility before you have fully analyzed all views and options.
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Re: Fans Of Michael Moore

One Quick Clarification, I liked how he Exploded in Team America. The South Park Guys, Trey and Parker Directed Team America.

Film's Moore Directed:
Roger & Me
Canadian Bacon
The Big One
Bowling for Columbine
Fahrenheit 9/11

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Sicko-About the American Healthcare System due out later this year I believe, but that probably will change.
Fahrenheit 9/11 1/2-Not so much info, but he's told the media he's working on it
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Re: Fans Of Michael Moore

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I am not a fan of Michael Moore...


but supposedly I look like him.

I have his picture from a magazine over my desk and everyone thinks the guy with the rifle is me.

I'm not sure this is a good thing....

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Re: Fans Of Michael Moore

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This movie may not come out... I heard on CNN awhile back that the medical industries are told NOT to serve him with any info at all. Sadly he is known for how he butchers credibility and they don't want anything to do with him. Companies are putting up fronts and not letting him see into their buisnesses
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Re: Fans Of Michael Moore

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Saying that his documentries are informative and truthful is like saying that we never landed on the moon.
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Although I agree on this statement Moore's facts are bogus and they cannot be backed up. Take a look at his movies and then go to the "sources" he uses. When my debate team looked up his research nearly 45% of the sources are not there and another 20% are in places that provide a lot of false infornmation.
Sorry, but to say that everything he says is flat out wrong is just not true. Plenty of what he says has factual basis, he just twists it to fit his own purposes. This is the same thing many of his conservative counterparts do.

That's why numerous people have said you cannot take what he says at face value--you need to do your own research and draw your own conclusions, not let someone else draw them for you.

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I respect his opinions, but I hate the way he presents them. He takes advantage of ignorant minds, by presenting a one sided argument where nearly all of his arguments can be shot down if only given a chance.
Isn't that what politics are all about?
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Re: Fans Of Michael Moore

it is very important to not take evrything at face value. This especially important when deciding who to vote into to the government. Always look at multiple sources and then cross reference and decide your facts from there and then and only then can you make a truely informed decision about who to vote for or what to believe. I have seen Farenheit 9-11 and its conservitive counterpart fahrenhype 9-11 and to say that they are both documenteries would be contradictory in most aspects of each other. There are actual solid facts in both but they both are also two pieces of propaganda for last years election.

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Re: Fans Of Michael Moore

His movies are great (Canadian Bacon is my favorite!), and F9/11 is also legal to copy and distribute for noncommercial purposes. Always a fan of that!

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