Would you or your team ever sell your old robot(s)?

[Jay Trzaskos]

Originally Posted by Arefin Bari

But seriously I don't think the team would sell any robots. Those robots are memories of students who worked their butt of each season.

I have to agree with Arefin here (that in itself is rare) I would hate if we ever sold one of our bots. I am quite fond of all of them, Burnout, R2, MJ, Denominator, Undefined. (not sure what happened to Undefined, last time i saw her was in '03) I didnt even work om some of them, seeing as i wasnt on the team at the time, but I would hate to see them go. But if anyone asks, that wasn't me you saw at Highbay loading up the truck, I have no idea where Denominator went.

JT
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[JVN]

Originally Posted by Jay Trzaskos

Burnout MJ, Undefined.

Not much left of those...
I am usually in the "do not disassemble old robots" school of thought, but I took special pleasure in gutting Burnout and turning her into a pile of parts.

MJ and Undefined... well... you HS kids are mean during driver training.

[Jay Trzaskos]

hey i never got to drive MJ, but definatley one of my vavorite 229 bots. right there behind Denominator. I wanted to put her back together, but noooo, JOhn didn't want me to. Thought i should be driving the robot and getting better... oh... uhm, never mind, John was right.

JT

[Mike]

Obviously Elgin knows what we do with our bots, but for anyone else interested we usually rip them apart. Our 2004 bot is still in decent condition, so we'll probably use that to prototype design/programming ideas.

[mechanicalbrain]

yeah we always say were keeping our bot together but then we need a spare motor or this cable or that sensor..... yeah..... were failures.

[Matt Krass]

We tried to keep ours together, but we can't seem to manage it.

2001 - Tempo LX, Regional Winner, pile of parts. (To be fair Tempo got more or less destroyed in one match and was taken apart in a vain attempt at repair cause none of us knew anything about him )

2002 - Captain, nearly perfect shape. He has the obligatory dents, bangs and scrapes of a FIRST bot, but he functioned perfectly until the end of this year when his pneumatics broke, but that's since been fixed. He's our favorite demo-bot

2003 - Worst Case Scenario, decent shape, lacking basically all his motors though, he can't move at all.

2004 - Near Precision, drive works, arm was KIA during a demo, and later disassembled, he's first on the list to be repaired next season.

2005- Sir Pinski, broken RC, the power connectors ripped out at the regional. We used a loaner from 488 in Atlanta. Waiting to have that IFI'd.

So...we only have one "functioning" robot and there's no way we'd sell any of them.

[Dr. Osemwengie]

That is why I founded world robotics invitational where I am promoting Transform Your Old FIRST robot contest for a chance to win $2,500.00 for your team. For more detail log on to www.worldroboticsinvitational.org

[iwin2000]

It's not like I don't share the opinion, I love our robot too

But on the other hand, if we don't need it anymore, I wouldn't mind selling it to someone who actually would have a purpose for it as opposed to having it just sit there for people to look at.

So yea selling it is fine, just make sure to take a ton of pictures before you let it go.

[Blue_Mist]

My first reaction to reading the title of this thread was "HOLY CRAP, you're asking me WHAT?!?!?" Then I thought about it. And thought about it, and thought about it some more, but the answer is still, no, not while they still function. All three ('06, '07 and '08) functional robots are awesome demo bots, and as of now we have all of three members who will be here after 2009, so recruitment is more important than fund raising now. Besides, it's kind of like asking to sell your child. Our team's situation isn't that desperate yet! But you know, the team in two years may think differently.

[SamC]

would you or your team ever buy our (330) old robots?

[Elgin Clock]

Originally Posted by SamSofa330

would you or your team ever buy our (330) old robots?

If I were to buy any of them, it would have to be the one from '04.
Your team had a great bot that year, & more importantly one which rivaled ours with a similar mechanism for moving across & defending the bar.
And... while I did oversleep on that Saturday in Atlanta, & completely missed the match where we were on opposing alliances, I heard it was one of the most competitive matches outside of the finals on that field that year. (Archimedes was it? - I forget.)

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Elgin Clock

If I were to buy any of them, it would have to be the one from '04.
Your team had a great bot that year, & more importantly one which rivaled ours with a similar mechanism for moving across & defending the bar.
And... while I did oversleep on that Saturday in Atlanta, & completely missed the match where we were on opposing alliances, I heard it was one of the most competitive matches outside of the finals on that field that year. (Archimedes was it? - I forget.)

Yep, Archimedes. As I recall, 330 won the race to the bar, at which point 237 went to herd/defend after trying to get past them.

And I certainly hope that 330's 2005 robot is never sold.

[Ericgehrken]

Is the '07 bot for sale?
It showed simplicity and dominance at its finest.

[JesseK]

'06 - Frankencat is but a frame and wheels and probably drives 20x better now than it ever did at a competition. We've scrapped many a part from it. It is the single most powerful symbol on display in our classroom -- we won Rookie All-Stars in Atlanta and the bot serves as a constant reminder that this whole program isn't about the bot.

'07 - M-Cat is mostly functional, minus some electronic debug issues. The ramps were signed by 90% of the teams who climbed them. There's too much sentimental value to the team to ever sell this bot, though we may scrap non-ramp components for future bots/projects.

'08 - We will probably never scrap anything from PAWS. It was the most technically challenging and overall successful bot we've built to date. In a year or two, we'd probably be willing to "sell" the robot to a sponsor for them to display, as it is definitely an eye-catcher.

Now, forget bots that are for sale...

What about all of these nifty carts and battery totes I saw in Atlanta? This summer's CAD workshops we will design our own versions, but it'd be awesome to get designs for the things we don't have time to get to.

[Travis Hoffman]

I don't think I'd ever advocate the sale of any of our old robots (besides, who would want them? ). The symbolic value of all the time, energy, sweat, emotion, memories, and, indeed, blood poured into each robot would far outweigh any monetary value you could attach to the machines.

48 has kept each of our 11 robots generally together. Most are functional to some degree. It's hard finding places to keep so many, especially so when you're in the process of transitioning from the old high school to the new building that opens up next year. Many that resided at the school have taken up temporary residence elsewhere. Current robot status:

1998 - in two separate pieces but could be restored - no controls. Stored in teacher's garage.

1999 - together, but all surgical tubing from the floppy conveyor rotted away. No controls. Stored in teacher's garage.

2000 - Fully functional. On display at Delphi facility.

2001 - Partially functional. On display at Delphi facility.

2002 - Partially functional. On display at Delphi facility. Extruded frame still out of whack after meeting the center goal at the same time Team 60's bot did in elims at Disney.

2003 - Fully functional. Used for obstacle/defensive bot during practice. Stored at 2010's high school.

2004 - Fully functional. Used for obstacle/defensive bot during practice. Stored at 2010's high school.

2005 - Partially functional. Slated for eventual conversion to t-shirt cannon/robotic paintball shooting platform. Stored at 2010's high school.

2006 - Functional save for ball collector. Used as a popular demo bot. Will either be stored at 379's high school or in my garage.

2007 - Fully functional. Served as pilot's (drivebase) practice bot for the 2008 season. Will either be stored at 379's high school or in my garage.

2008 - Will stay at 379's high school over the summer, where 48 will stage its summer operations while our school is closed. Thanks again to the Robocats!

Once we move into the new building, the problem of storing all these bots will still exist. Instead of selling these bots or letting them sit in some mentor's garage, my one thought would be to offer them to local venues such as Youngstown State University and Kent State - Trumbull Campus to be a part of static displays promoting FIRST programs. We already put our robots on static display at the art gallery at the local mall. Get them out where people can see them and ask questions, and who knows what kind of FIRST buzz you can generate locally?