Sync Magainze article about Gunn Robotics Team ... Do adults ruin the game? GRT 192

[ducttapejason]

do adults ruin the game?

there is a three page article about what happened to the grt that caused the team to be suspended in the middle of the semester. it goes over the two restraining orders that were suspiciously filed on the same day, and places the blame for the teams demise solely on the parents...

i tried to find the article online but was not able to. basically the article points out that "girls don't go to court when overzealous boys send them too many emails, and boys don't go to court just because they get punched in the arm."

i think it is a shame what the adults (generally the parents) do to this wonderful program. i hope first is once again graced by the presence of 192 next year.

i would just like to let the first community know that i will not be volunteering for first anymore due to some head clashing over comments i had made on the forum. i will still continue to mentor individual teams, since it is something that i feel really committed to, and it is a program that i truly love.

remember that this whole thing is for the kids, who are the future, and that when adults have too much investment into the teams, stupid fighting turns into the destruction of a great team such as 192.

i open up the discussion to comments, and hopefully a link to the article, by someone younger and smarter than myself.

note:after a quick search i noticed another post about the article, but i have not read it, so please excuse anything i may have overlooked

[Greg Perkins]

Allright, i know its a shame that gunn came to its demise, but can we please give them some decency and move on?? I mean seriously, there have been three threads about this, both prior having multiple complaints about the nature of the thread, so why are we kicking a dead horse? Personally, i think that all of you who keep trying to bring this up need to just let it die.

As for the adult topic in here, every team is different. Some need the adult leadership that students just cannot offer at this point in their lives, and other adults who take it upon themselves to make their robot a winning robot and never let the kids try to lead. Yet somehow, the second phase of that adult mentor seems to work in its own and twisted way, kids are still learning about engineering by watching.

So do i believe that adults ruin first? NO, all i say is that they sometimes might take it a bit too far and 'overstep their "boundaries"'. Meaning FIRST wasnt designed to have adults build robots, yes help is ok, but if FIRST wanted adults to build robots, they would have had a different competition.

just my $.02

[Mike Martus]

This has been discused in the General Forum.

It is best to keep innerworkings of your team private and not to keep pounding away at an event that has had a negative effect on a team. If this team is to survive or re-establish they need to work out their problems on a team level.

I am closing this thread as the general thread is being closely monitored to prevent damage to a great team.