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Unread 23-08-2005, 16:55
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Re: pic: PS2 Driven Robot

I really think that IFI should sell an adapter to go from a PS2 gamepad or a USB gamepad to the input ports of an RC.

One thing I would really like is that this will enable us to could go with a wireless gamepad -- how often have your drivers been visually blocked because they are tied down to wired joysticks?

This would be a great idea for IFI to take on.

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Unread 23-08-2005, 17:10
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Re: pic: PS2 Driven Robot

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I really think that IFI should sell an adapter to go from a PS2 gamepad or a USB gamepad to the input ports of an RC.

One thing I would really like is that this will enable us to could go with a wireless gamepad -- how often have your drivers been visually blocked because they are tied down to wired joysticks?

This would be a great idea for IFI to take on.

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When I was interning with IFI last summer, the EE's had robots driving around on PS2 Gamepads. The technology was finished and working beautifully, but the project was scrapped for some reason. I think they weren't sure about the market for it.
I'm not really sure.

Who would prefer using this instead of a joystick?

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Re: pic: PS2 Driven Robot

Compared to last years joysticks, i would love to use a ps2 or a game pad to control the robot. But there is just one problem, Iam no longer a student and therefore I can't drive the robot in competition. But I do think it would be awesome if a set up like that was available. . .
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Unread 23-08-2005, 17:24
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Re: pic: PS2 Driven Robot

Actually what would be a cooler thing to see would be a 3D joystick with a serial interface. Before somebody mentions a MS sidewinder they are not compatible with the RC. Yeah if somebody were to come out with a RC compatible 3D joystick it would be amazing!
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Unread 23-08-2005, 17:43
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Re: pic: PS2 Driven Robot

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Actually what would be a cooler thing to see would be a 3D joystick with a serial interface.
You said the same thing a couple of days ago, and my answer yesterday stands: The OI doesn't have any ports to which you can connect a serial joystick.

I actually have a 3D joystick with a serial interface; it's a Hewlett-Packard Spaceball. Few programs have the ability to use it as an input device.
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Re: pic: PS2 Driven Robot

Sorry, didn't mean serial (i keep doing that). I meant a game (joystick) port.
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Re: pic: PS2 Driven Robot

Having driven our robot solo on both the old 3 joystick controls and our new PS2 controls. I can say this the PS2 controller is way easier to drive the robot with. Also its way quicker at capping Tetras because all the controls you need are right there.
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Re: pic: PS2 Driven Robot

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Who would prefer using this instead of a joystick?

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I would bet just about anything that anybody would prefer to use PS2 gamepads over the huge joysticks.
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Re: pic: PS2 Driven Robot

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I would bet just about anything that anybody would prefer to use PS2 gamepads over the huge joysticks.
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Re: pic: PS2 Driven Robot

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1) Most of the veteran teams won't touch the right-hand only beige joysticks that have been included in the kit for the past few years. The problems with broken axes, poor range, inconsistent centering, etc etc are well known.

2) Veteran teams lucky enough to stockpile those CH flightsticks from many years ago love them. They're getting extremely rare now, and I think most of us realize aren't may seasons left in them.

3) What would it take to get to IFI to integrate one of your PS2 dongles right into the OI next year? or the year after? Would you be willing to give up the dongle design in the spirit of improving FIRST as a whole?
Has anybody ever thought of nstalling maybe a car style shifter i place of the left right-handed controller. I made one on my lathe at home if you want pics email me at Silverbullet38@gmail.com
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Re: pic: PS2 Driven Robot

After breaking it on Friday night at the Rock Financial Showplace, the team got it working on Saturday in time for our last 5 matches.

Of course, the joystick controls are very touchy, and it's difficult to be thinking about driving and using the arm simultaneously, but once you get accustomed to it, it is easier to control the robot. Mind you, the only video game I play is Soul Calibur, because it's the only one I can win. Because I button mash. I'm not sure why they let me drive...

I think if we go with the PS2 controls for competition next year, we'll have to controllers. One for drive, one for the manipulator. It'll be easier to control that way, and it will get more people out on the field during competition.

They've been working on this all summer, and it's really good to see that they were able to make it work!

Good work to Eric, Derek and Jake!

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Re: pic: PS2 Driven Robot

Well, just to clear things up, it was never broken. We were moving it over from an oversized breadboard into a nice concise little box. Since our robot has been moving around to various demos lately, we have little time to get things working, so we just had to drive with the regular joysticks while we were sorting things out.

P.S. - We will be getting documentation with sourcecode, pictures, and information out soon. We are working on getting it powered off the OI, so an external power source is not needed.
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Re: pic: PS2 Driven Robot

in response to number 3 by SlimBoJones, yes. that would be awsome
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Re: pic: PS2 Driven Robot

another update, we are about () () close to getting the final version done, its gonna be uber small and use smd parts, better schematics soon,
ALSO, we got it working powered off the OI
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Re: pic: PS2 Driven Robot

you guys should use a DDR (dance dance revolution) pad so that it's like you are the robot.
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