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Re: Girls are still undermined?

OK so being male I wanted to get an accurate opinion both from my perspective and that of a female at our school. We've concluded that to some extent is its due to both genders. Some males do have the mentality that girl and engineer do not compute. partially this is a regional and cultural aspect on the male side.

In our area she has not had any complaints in terms of this area however I went to a local Best buy and while I saw lots of girls working their none worked at the geek squad desk (just a simple example of a technical career). So this brings me to the duality of it all, females apply a limit to themselves also. Both personally and on other woman, though this isn't helped by the fact males tend be repelled by intelligent females (especially if they are smarter then the guy ). I know that our team has numerous girls (around 15) though we are a big team (79 kids).

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However, I will take the other side of the fence for a minute, and say that most females are more creative and more organized than the guys. (Im NOT saying guys arent creative or organized, its just both a genetic & environmentally induced thing). And in the real world of engineering/business most top executives are male... this is generally from the motherly instinct. Society & nature has deamed the mothers the caregivers and the fathers the breadwinners. Its the same in many animals as well.
I'm not sure I agree with the idea the idea that woman are more creative or even better caregivers (im not saying that you are wrong but that its not even close to being a universal truth). Its too close to a blanket statement. I do agree that in many careers a man doesn't have to work as hard to succeed, but thats not entirely do to social prejudice. I would like to point out their are plenty of animals in the wild where the males are caregivers, seahorses come to mind. And I'm not sure thats even indicative of humanity. I think humans have diverged quite a bit from traits that animals posses enough that our nature is very unique in many cases, even where we have unique feelings like modesty.

In fact looking at my fellow students I think that something like creativity, organization, and basic instincts can be interchangeable as creativity seems to be equally devoid in both sexes in most of my classes (you should hear a literary discussion in English, its the only time where its quiet enough for me to sort all my thoughts ). To some factor genetics and bodily chemicals apply but only to a point.

Again as Ive said I believe this to be a regional thing, and this is all just an opinion based on what Ive viewed from my school and region and this all probably changes depending on where you are (which is why it's impossible to make a generalization unless you live everywhere) and what you do or have done. From the point of a large high school, in a wealthy area, in Virginia the social stigma is very rare and what of it that does exist is normally unconscious.
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