Nintendo Revolution

[KenWittlief]

so, who has taken one apart?

they must have accelerometers or other form of yaw rate sensors

and if they are selling these mass market, the parts must be pretty in-expensive

[Adam Y.]

Originally Posted by KenWittlief

so, who has taken one apart?

they must have accelerometers or other form of yaw rate sensors

and if they are selling these mass market, the parts must be pretty in-expensive

Ummm.... You are jumping the gun way to soon. The Revolution will not be out until next year.

[bk111]

The controller is probably one of the most impressive devices I've seen. As the Revolution being clunky, have you seen how thin the thing is? Also, the controller will have a recharging station. Imagine duel-wielding them, though. Can anything handle eight controllers at once? The graphics capabilities of the console are hopefully going to be holographic or something like that.

[Kristian Calhoun]

fist of all, what do you mean by saying clunky? its way less lcunky than the 360 or ps3, only the size of 3 stacked dvd cases!
second, nothing has been confirmed about a recharging station, and im pretty sure (90%)that if you use twice at once, they will have to be on different frequencies (player slots)

[bk111]

I was referring to the 13th post (sorry, this forum layout is a little bit different from the outside, and I don't know how to quote.) As for the recharging station, go to IGN. They wrote something so ridiculous about the PS3 that you have to read it. Also, I heard that the PS3 is going to cost between 600 and 800 dollars.
So this is what the prices stack up to now:
Revolution: 200
Xbox 360: 300-400
PS3: 600-800
I think the Big N is going to come out on top in this one.

[wilshire]

the revolution controller idea is pretty innovative but I'm not a big fan. I like the 360 controller allot and it feels very natural to me (allot more natural then the XBOX s type controller). I don't know what Sony is planning with their system. first they say their going Blue Ray then they say they aren't sure. then they release photos of their controller which is much more reminiscent of a boomerang then a controller. now the cost estimation of the system is 600 to 800 dollars. I have a feeling there is going to be allot more revolutions sold in japan then PS3's if these predictions come out to be true.

[Ian Curtis]

GAH! I will eat my shorts if the PS3 debuts for over $400. The people who work at Sony are not stupid. There is no way they would release a system for that much money, becuase only the die hardest die hard fans would buy it. I certainly don't know anyone who would pay 600 bucks for it.

Also, why would they back of Blu-ray when it was one of their selling points? (Although I hope they do abandon it)

I've said it before and I'll say it again... I love the Revolutions controller, I might even buy the system.

[bk111]

I will be really upset if they don't boost the specs a lot from the Gamecube. I've heard that they told developers to just up the specs from the Gamecube development kits. I'm really frustrated by all the secrecy.

[Kristian Calhoun]

Originally Posted by bk111

I will be really upset if they don't boost the specs a lot from the Gamecube. I've heard that they told developers to just up the specs from the Gamecube development kits. I'm really frustrated by all the secrecy.

ok, just to set the record straight...

-the revolution has its own development kits, which has been confirmed by developers. i mean, how else would we know about some of the information that we already have if it weren't for developers leaking us info about the developement kits?
-the specs will be pwn-some(lol)and the rev. although not being a highly expensive piece of hardware focusing on graphics, will be 2-4x more powerful than the gamecube and will have just as many times greater the graphics.
-the rev will have an IBM "Broadway" CPU, and an ATI "Hollywood" GPU.
-secrecy was a part of the marketing of nintendo, and to prevent other companies from getting a glimpse of their ideas during the developement stage until they could get patents. everything will be revealed at e3 in may (starting on the 9th)
- there will be an unconfirmed amount of 1T-SRAM, whose goal is to "combine the speed of SRAM with the capacity and price of DRAM. The new 1T-SRAM has very low power consumption while maintaning a rate of speed and functionality close to SRAM and allowing for the density of DRAM."
- it is rumored to have 88MB 1T-SRAM and 16MB D-RAM, but this PURE SPECULATION!
- however, it is confirmed that the revolution will have 512mb of expandable flash memory, which is plenty enough for games, despite what many people think. Nintendo is trying to make a family friendly console that willl not devour your wallet as you purchase it. keeping this in mind, nintendo has wisely decided not to include a hard drive in their next-gen console for several reasons. they state that hard drives are the parts of computers that are most prone to crashing, also, they can be expensive, which will in the end eventually cost the purchaser more money, and increase the price of the system. nintendo has officially stated that there will be 2 usb 2.0 ports on the rev. and 2(?) sd memory card slots allowing for users to expand the memory if they so please.
-Satoru Iwata (nintendo president for those of you who didn't know) said that when you compare the next-gen consoles spec-wise, the Revolution isn't the winner. He also said that specs don't really matter, because when you play it, there won't be a noticable difference. How you may ask? Well, the PS3 and XBOX 360 may be monsters when it comes to specs, but, does all of that power really go to the games? Sadly, the answer is no. The truth is, all of that extra power goes to the multiple connections, ports, hard drives, and other accesories. Nintendo has conserved it's power by only providing two USB ports and the required A/V ports and power adapter ports, and the sd memory card slots. (so the revolution will not have a giant brick of a power adapter like the 360.)

so commenting on the rev.'s power, size, versatility, innovation, controller, future pheriphals/add-ons, and nintendo's view of the current market, etc., this is a lot of power and quality coming from a console which is smaller than 3 stacked dvd cases!

hoped this cleared things up a bit, and will prevent any future confusion. we'll just have to wait until E3!

[bk111]

Originally Posted by calhounian

ok, just to set the record straight...

-the revolution has its own development kits, which has been confirmed by developers. i mean, how else would we know about some of the information that we already have if it weren't for developers leaking us info about the developement kits?
-the specs will be pwn-some(lol)and the rev. although not being a highly expensive piece of hardware focusing on graphics, will be 2-4x more powerful than the gamecube and will have just as many times greater the graphics.
-the rev will have an IBM "Broadway" CPU, and an ATI "Hollywood" GPU.
-secrecy was a part of the marketing of nintendo, and to prevent other companies from getting a glimpse of their ideas during the developement stage until they could get patents. everything will be revealed at e3 in may (starting on the 9th)
- there will be an unconfirmed amount of 1T-SRAM, whose goal is to "combine the speed of SRAM with the capacity and price of DRAM. The new 1T-SRAM has very low power consumption while maintaning a rate of speed and functionality close to SRAM and allowing for the density of DRAM."
- it is rumored to have 88MB 1T-SRAM and 16MB D-RAM, but this PURE SPECULATION!
- however, it is confirmed that the revolution will have 512mb of expandable flash memory, which is plenty enough for games, despite what many people think. Nintendo is trying to make a family friendly console that willl not devour your wallet as you purchase it. keeping this in mind, nintendo has wisely decided not to include a hard drive in their next-gen console for several reasons. they state that hard drives are the parts of computers that are most prone to crashing, also, they can be expensive, which will in the end eventually cost the purchaser more money, and increase the price of the system. nintendo has officially stated that there will be 2 usb 2.0 ports on the rev. and 2(?) sd memory card slots allowing for users to expand the memory if they so please.
-Satoru Iwata (nintendo president for those of you who didn't know) said that when you compare the next-gen consoles spec-wise, the Revolution isn't the winner. He also said that specs don't really matter, because when you play it, there won't be a noticable difference. How you may ask? Well, the PS3 and XBOX 360 may be monsters when it comes to specs, but, does all of that power really go to the games? Sadly, the answer is no. The truth is, all of that extra power goes to the multiple connections, ports, hard drives, and other accesories. Nintendo has conserved it's power by only providing two USB ports and the required A/V ports and power adapter ports, and the sd memory card slots. (so the revolution will not have a giant brick of a power adapter like the 360.)

so commenting on the rev.'s power, size, versatility, innovation, controller, future pheriphals/add-ons, and nintendo's view of the current market, etc., this is a lot of power and quality coming from a console which is smaller than 3 stacked dvd cases!

hoped this cleared things up a bit, and will prevent any future confusion. we'll just have to wait until E3!

What do you think has been their most cryptic quote yet?

[Kristian Calhoun]

Originally Posted by bk111

What do you think has been their most cryptic quote yet?

as in an official quote that might reveal something and that everyone is talking about? that one's a toughie, i'll have to get back to you on that one...

[bk111]

I think it was when they said it would have graphics improvements that have no bearing on gameplay. That isn't an exact quote, but it comes across as an oxymoron or something. Anyone know how many developers have confirmed support with a title? As far as I know Ubisoft/Free Radical Design-shooter (suspected), tecmo-golf, Sega, Capcom- not resident evil, Retro Studios-Metroid Prime 3 , an unnamed developer-Super Smash Bros, Blitz Games-unknown. If you find anymore, please add.

[Kristian Calhoun]

well here are some quotes that i came up with, but of course they were meant to keep everyone guessing, and there are a bunch more. if you want to i suggest checking out the rev section of ign.com they have a lot of info and articles regarding speeches and details.

"It's convenient to make games that are played on TVs. But I always wanted to have a custom-sized screen that wasn't the typical four-cornered cathode-ray-tube TV. I've always thought that games would eventually break free of the confines of a TV screen to fill an entire room. But I would rather not say anything more about that."
-Miyamoto.

"Our Revolution system is going to be full of surprises. Who else in the industry can boast the clock ticker like yesterday's industrious revisions for the penultimate gaming knife cutter?"
- Miyamoto

[bk111]

Originally Posted by calhounian

well here are some quotes that i came up with, but of course they were meant to keep everyone guessing, and there are a bunch more. if you want to i suggest checking out the rev section of ign.com they have a lot of info and articles regarding speeches and details.

"It's convenient to make games that are played on TVs. But I always wanted to have a custom-sized screen that wasn't the typical four-cornered cathode-ray-tube TV. I've always thought that games would eventually break free of the confines of a TV screen to fill an entire room. But I would rather not say anything more about that."
-Miyamoto.

"Our Revolution system is going to be full of surprises. Who else in the industry can boast the clock ticker like yesterday's industrious revisions for the penultimate gaming knife cutter?"
- Miyamoto

Do you think he might be alluding to VR for the Rev? Would that even be possible, considering the similiarities between the Rev and Gamecube development kits?

[Jay W.]

VR would be awesome (so would that lightsaber thingy mentioned above, but thats another story!)

Unfortunatly, I don't see it happening with the Revolution. From what I've read, VR would take more power/memory than the system is rumored to contain.