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View Poll Results: What do you want for 2006?
Same Kitbot 11 16.18%
Better Kitframe 19 27.94%
Better Gearboxes 19 27.94%
More Motors(same types) 29 42.65%
New Motors 27 39.71%
More Pnuematics(vari valves, etc.) 25 36.76%
More Sensors(gyro, pot, etc.) 36 52.94%
CMUCam 16 23.53%
New Sensor(Like the IR or CMUCam last year) 14 20.59%
Don't Care. We just put the brain on the tote it comes in. 8 11.76%
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Re: 2006 KOP Wish List

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Originally Posted by JVN
...if FIRST put 10 sprocket sizes in the kit, and most teams pick and use 1 size, then they've essentially wasted money on 9 sprockets per team. This is not a good thing. Instead, they must strive to include a single size that a lot of teams will use. (This is just an example).

It is all about bang for your buck.
-JV
First off, I think the kitbot chassis and kit gearboxes are great for both rookie and veteran teams. They are both robust and flexible while keeping costs low for FIRST. If teams want to modify them like lightening the gearboxes or choping up the frame they are free to do so. I agree that FIRST can't and shouldn't put a large variety of parts (wheels, sprockets, etc.) in the kit because a lot of it will go to waste.

What about a voucher program? Let FIRST ship the KoP with the standard stuff (IFI control system, kitbot chassis and gearboxes, motors, batteries, air compressor, pneumatics hose and fittings) but NO "extra" parts (wheels, sprockets, chain, pneumatic cylinders, sensors, etc.). Then teams are given vouchers for X number of wheels, sprockets, etc. just like we do with the 3 free pneumatic cylinders from Bimba in the past. There is no waste for FIRST and teams still sort of get to pick from a limited list of standard parts but still get to design and build to their team specs. The list of standard stuff could even be known before the kickoff (like the prebuild materials list) but the big secret would be the game and what else might be on the "extras" voucher list. Let's face it. Even a lot of the stuff FIRST included in the KoP last year were not used by many teams (Skyway wheelchair wheels, CMU Cam, gear tooth sensors, latex tubing, those seat motor shafts but no seat motor, the little Mabushi motor, ...). How much did it cost FIRST for all those CMU cams last year that only a relatively few teams were able to successfully use? Would that money have been better spent another way? Maybe, maybe not, who's to say. I think it would be interesting to see what teams would come up with if they could only use wheels, sprockets, sensors, etc from a specified list but get to pick what they think they can use the best.
 


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