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Re: 2006 Pre-Kickoff FF -- IT'S ON!

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The way I see it, go with whatever you think will get you the points. Will another team pull a 67? Perhaps. Will 254 or 22 or 47 or any of the other past Chairman's winners come back next season and win the Championship? Entirely possible.

(Diverging from the topic a bit, has anyone besides 67 won both a Championship and a Chairman's, even in separate years?)

Edit: Conor's up next.
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Re: 2006 Pre-Kickoff FF -- IT'S ON!

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Not only chairman's, but FF in general comes down to luck sometimes.

I submit exhibit A: my random pick that was given to me in FF for the Championship event in 2005, Team 67.

And we all know how 67 did at the Championship Event, and how many points they gave me for FF.

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I disagree with the thought that the CHairman's Award is won by "mistake".
All those HOF teams worked hard to eran their right to be there and while a robot is a tangeble object that is easy to assess it's value .
The Chairman's award requires alot of work and effort of these teams and actually you can see over the years when they become CHairman worthy teams (Like 118 the odds on favorites this year, 341 and 79)
I heavily reccomend going to the HOF at the Championship and check out what these teams do for the FIRST community and you'd be impressed with the amount of work these guys do off the field as they do on the field.
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Re: 2006 Pre-Kickoff FF -- IT'S ON!

When HOT was announced as the winner last year the announcer said they had a $20,000 self-supporting Engineering Outreach program (at least I'm pretty sure that's what the announcer said). Now if that isn't dedication, what is?

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to get back to my evil plan of waiting to draft two certain teams who have somehow managed to slip through the draft process to the third (and hopefully fourth) rounds.
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Re: 2006 Pre-Kickoff FF -- IT'S ON!

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The Chairman's award requires alot of work and effort of these teams and actually you can see over the years when they become CHairman worthy teams (Like 118 the odds on favorites this year, 341 and 79)
I think that's what they were getting at in the whole discussion. Each of those teams has the ability to win Chairman's in Atlanta. However, in a situation with so many teams at that level, it's really hard to determine which one team will actually do it. That's the element of chance.

On a side note, is anyone opposed to adding a 45-point category for Chairman's Honorable Mentions? (That would put it on par with winning EI at the Championship.)
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I think that's what they were getting at in the whole discussion. Each of those teams has the ability to win Chairman's in Atlanta. However, in a situation with so many teams at that level, it's really hard to determine which one team will actually do it. That's the element of chance.

On a side note, is anyone opposed to adding a 45-point category for Chairman's Honorable Mentions? (That would put it on par with winning EI at the Championship.)
Sounds good to me.
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Re: 2006 Pre-Kickoff FF -- IT'S ON!

I dont know really, 45 points sounds a bit high, but i also think the Chairmans and awards points are already too high. I'm not sure what scores i would propose instead, but i just want to make sure that no one will get lucky like elgin did last year(no offence elgin) and have the game completely dominated by one team. Yes I know if could be because the person drafted well...but i dont know, i think the awards are scored to highly as of now.
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Re: 2006 Pre-Kickoff FF -- IT'S ON!

Looking back at the scores, 80 points does seem a bit steep in relation to every other scoring category out there (world champions get 35).

So how about this:

Champions: 35 points
Chairman's HM: 45 points
EI: 45 points
Chairman's: 55 points

Still a big amount of points, and well worth one's while, but it's not utterly dominating.

And Conor is still up.
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Re: 2006 Pre-Kickoff FF -- IT'S ON!

I would argue it should be utterly dominating. The winning team is the pinnacle of FIRST. (Also, remember the score will be brought down becuase it is an average of all events they attend, and they'll be attending at least 2.)
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Re: 2006 Pre-Kickoff FF -- IT'S ON!

Like a fool, I missed Conor's pick (103) in all the discussion.

1derboy is up, followed by yours truly.

After much deliberation, I'm going to pick the Burning Magnetos, team 342.

Marc P. Dan Swando is up.

And the rest of the night's schedule:

8:50: Dan Swando<br>
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Re: 2006 Pre-Kickoff FF -- IT'S ON!

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Re: 2006 Pre-Kickoff FF -- IT'S ON!

alright since i missed my pick again (man how do i miss three picks) i going to take team 910 the Foley freeze to keep Michigan connection going strong.
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Done. iCurtis is up now. (Marc P. and Jeff can draft whenever they get on.)

And remember, everyone from Curtis onward tonight will be drafting twice (although for everyone but Ted, at separate times.) So stick around.

Update: Curtis listifies 40. Dez is up.
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Re: 2006 Pre-Kickoff FF -- IT'S ON!

Billfred, can I change my pick to 1251?
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Sure thing. (I was just going on the list.)

Dez is still up.
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Ed is up.

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