2006 Official Game Hint Discussion

[Greg Needel]

Originally Posted by Grayswandir-75

aren't they trying the gps kits with the DARPA challenge and aren't the ending up sometimes miles off course?

true that residential gps is +/- 10 feet but differential gps is good down to a few inches... the only problem is GPS doesn't work inside, it is hard to get line of sight with satellites when there is a roof in the way. :-P

as for my opinion i like the idea of a robotic field element and small game elements piled up (golf balls) anyway we will find out soon enough.

[buss]

After thinking heavily about the clue, and reading through all 14 pages, I've come up with this:
http://liberdictus.com/2006-sky-high.jpg

What do you all think?

[Cory]

Originally Posted by buss

After thinking heavily about the clue, and reading through all 14 pages, I've come up with this:
http://liberdictus.com/2006-sky-high.jpg

What do you all think?

Interesting, but it looks far too simple.

Teams have all but mastered the art of picking up large exercise balls and depositing them in various containers.

[sanddrag]

Originally Posted by Greg Needel

true that residential gps is +/- 10 feet but differential gps is good down to a few inches... the only problem is GPS doesn't work inside, it is hard to get line of sight with satellites when there is a roof in the way. :-P

Not true. In my mom's car, we've still gotten a GPS signal in a below ground parking garage.

[Nuttyman54]

Originally Posted by sanddrag

Not true. In my mom's car, we've still gotten a GPS signal in a below ground parking garage.

yes, but they'd have to somehow ensure that the GPS signal will a) not get lost during a match and b) will work the same in all venues.. a hard challenge indeed.

[sanddrag]

I just got a wierd thought. What if the game pieces were hardhats?

[Billfred]

Going back to the five bots thing, I was talking with another FIRSTer (who can name himself if he feels like it) when he brought up how his team had been asked at a few competitions to play with a pre-announced DQ to give everyone the same number of matches.

I'm thinking a neutral robot might be the way to go. Or, since FIRST spent all that money for a shiny new six-team field last season, perhaps TWO neutral teams (which would work as one). I'm not sure how FIRST could be sure the teams would really do much (other than encourage teams to play the game the way it was written), but I'm sure there's some craziness they could cook up.

[Tom Bottiglieri]

GPS doesn't necessarily mean positioning using satellites....

(Think 111... Think 2003)

[Alex Burman]

Originally Posted by sanddrag

What if the game pieces were hardhats?

Safety FIRST!

[Jay H 237]

The fact this thread is still currently active has brought me to one conclusion: Dave's game hint is much more important than the holidays.

The fact I posted this after reading this thread when I should be enjoying Christmas has also proved another conclusion: I'm no different than the rest of you!

[Shlomi32]

we just find out several things:
1) Montana is Joe Montana, his first winning session was at 1989, like the first FIRST game. he scored 34 sec before the end, 1989 is 17 years ago, meaning, 17*2=34.
we think that it will be like this:
a. 17 sec auto
b. normal play (don't know how much)
c. another 17 sec auto
2)shovel's show - maybe a hard game with a lots of tackling like Joe Montana did??...

[Nuttyman54]

Originally Posted by Shlomi32

we just find out several things:
1) Montana is Joe Montana, his first winning session was at 1989, like the first FIRST game. he scored 34 sec before the end, 1989 is 17 years ago, meaning, 17*2=34.
we think that it will be like this:
a. 17 sec auto
b. normal play (don't know how much)
c. another 17 sec auto
2)shovel's show - maybe a hard game with a lots of tackling like Joe Montana did??...

wow, interesting....love the line of thought there...and who knows, i might just be correct

***
on another note...in regard to the "GPS" debate, i remember seeing a booth for a type of indoor differential GPS as ROBONEXUS 2004...i'm gonna see if i can dig up the info. I don't believe FIRST would do this due to the problems with cost and field setup (if i recall they're domes attached to the ceiling)

[Greg Needel]

Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri

GPS doesn't necessarily mean positioning using satellites....

(Think 111... Think 2003)

after thinking about this and receiving info in my PM in box i am going to have to agree here that my last statement was a little too Broad. There are lots of ways to find your location relative to the world, including but not limited to: GPS signal repeaters, digital compasses, beacons, and a ton more. After thinking about this i would say that it maybe likely to have something like this, similar to the IR beacon in 2004.


BTW it was Dave Lavery who pointed me in the right direction with inside GPS

[JonJon]

Hi,
In the word "tangling" the trigonometric function tan/tang is hidden.
Due to that fact, my opnion is that the arena will be, at least a part of it, a ramp.

[Michelle Celio]

Originally Posted by hint

five 'bots tangling with pasta

Ok so after a good nights rest and a couple hours of not thinking of this at all...I've come up with that maybe, the "Bots" doesnt refer to robots at all...maybe something like bottle? Maybe the robots will have to move five bottles that are tied together with some sort of string? but they wouldnt be organized just a lot of chaos.

Originally Posted by hint

a game piece obsessed with a shovel's show

ok so in the past we've had robots that lift things with an arm, and push stuff around, so maybe this year we will have to like scoop something up and carry it around with something like This and since it's "obsessed" maybe the bottles will be covered in velcro and the scoop will have to have something on it that will hold the velcor and then another part to push it off, or maybe how ever many you can hold will be the given score?

Originally Posted by hint

and seeing Montana's green heights

I don't really have much of an idea for this one but it kinda slips in with the last bit , that they have to carry it around, maybe in order for them to count they have to be a certain hight or something like the scoop has to be able to go up in the air..or maybe with the whole dumping idea like i had before they will have to be put on an elevated surface?