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View Poll Results: What do you think of CoreChart?
I like it, and will probably be using it 5 10.64%
I think its a cool idea, but I wont be using it 24 51.06%
I dont like it at all 18 38.30%
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Re: CoreChart - What do you think?

I think that it would be a good idea for people that do not really want to learn to code that much but still want to be a programmer, I personally beleive that every "programmer" should be able to open a blank notepad page and be able to write a program that will compile and run.
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I personally beleive that every "programmer" should be able to open a blank notepad page and be able to write a program that will compile and run.
In C, with this compiler, that is indeed a programmer that knows his stuff.
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Re: CoreChart - What do you think?

For confirmation's sake, I point everyone to this thread: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=40988


CoreChart will be available free to any FIRST team. However, whether they have an actual affiliation with FIRST or not is another story, for another time. Like in 8 days.
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I'm pretty sure they do.
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Re: CoreChart - What do you think?

People who complain that CoreChart is too easy are missing the point. Skill in software engineering is all about algorithmic understanding and intuition. Implemenation is an important, but ultimately secondary, concern. Programming languages are more or less arbitrary.

That said, I really like C. C is an industry standard for a reason, it gives you almost as much control as assembler, but allows for abstraction. It is, for me, perfectly placed on the abstraction/control continuum.
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Re: CoreChart - What do you think?

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That said, I really like C. C is an industry standard for a reason, it gives you almost as much control as assembler, but allows for abstraction. It is, for me, perfectly placed on the abstraction/control continuum.
Very well said! This is exactly what I was trying to say (albiet very poorly) earlier.

As a side note, I am always concerned that this stuff will make it easy at the expense of the programmer actually learning about the algorithms. A graphical envronment encourages that, as you can have a high level block (such as "Execute PID") that is just there to use, but you don't have to actually know anything about a PID loop to use it!
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Re: CoreChart - What do you think?

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All that does is document that CoreChart will work with the IFI controllers, which are sold to a larger audience than just FIRST teams. There are many IFI-supporrted items that are not included in the Kit Of Parts and are not applicable/available to FIRST teams. We may yet learn on Saturday that CoreChart is one such item.

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Re: CoreChart - What do you think?

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All that does is document that CoreChart will work with the IFI controllers, which are sold to a larger audience than just FIRST teams. There are many IFI-supporrted items that are not included in the Kit Of Parts and are not applicable/available to FIRST teams. We may yet learn on Saturday that CoreChart is one such item.

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Huh?!
Look at his alliances. Look at his posts. Put 2 & 2 together. (Let's just say, there is a large, GP-shaped hole.)
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