CoreChart - What do you think?

[Andrew Blair]

For confirmation's sake, I point everyone to this thread: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=40988


CoreChart will be available free to any FIRST team. However, whether they have an actual affiliation with FIRST or not is another story, for another time. Like in 8 days.

[Astronouth7303]

http://www.ifirobotics.com/edu-rc.shtml#Programming

I'm pretty sure they do.

[phrontist]

People who complain that CoreChart is too easy are missing the point. Skill in software engineering is all about algorithmic understanding and intuition. Implemenation is an important, but ultimately secondary, concern. Programming languages are more or less arbitrary.

That said, I really like C. C is an industry standard for a reason, it gives you almost as much control as assembler, but allows for abstraction. It is, for me, perfectly placed on the abstraction/control continuum.

[Eldarion]

Originally Posted by phrontist

That said, I really like C. C is an industry standard for a reason, it gives you almost as much control as assembler, but allows for abstraction. It is, for me, perfectly placed on the abstraction/control continuum.

Very well said! This is exactly what I was trying to say (albiet very poorly) earlier.

As a side note, I am always concerned that this stuff will make it easy at the expense of the programmer actually learning about the algorithms. A graphical envronment encourages that, as you can have a high level block (such as "Execute PID") that is just there to use, but you don't have to actually know anything about a PID loop to use it!

[dlavery]

Originally Posted by Astronouth7303

http://www.ifirobotics.com/edu-rc.shtml#Programming

I'm pretty sure they do.

All that does is document that CoreChart will work with the IFI controllers, which are sold to a larger audience than just FIRST teams. There are many IFI-supporrted items that are not included in the Kit Of Parts and are not applicable/available to FIRST teams. We may yet learn on Saturday that CoreChart is one such item.

-dave

[Miroslav]

Originally Posted by dlavery

All that does is document that CoreChart will work with the IFI controllers, which are sold to a larger audience than just FIRST teams. There are many IFI-supporrted items that are not included in the Kit Of Parts and are not applicable/available to FIRST teams. We may yet learn on Saturday that CoreChart is one such item.

-dave

The FREE CoreChartFR for FRC2006 could lead to multi-million dollar eLabtronics sponsorships to create large scale smart kids and IPs in order to lessen the impact of the "Economic Tsunami" that is destroying jobs and businesses everywhere.

[phrontist]

Originally Posted by Miroslav

The FREE CoreChartFR for FRC2006 could lead to multi-million dollar eLabtronics sponsorships to create large scale smart kids and IPs in order to lessen the impact of the "Economic Tsunami" that is destroying jobs and businesses everywhere.

Huh?!

[Astronouth7303]

Originally Posted by phrontist

Huh?!

Look at his alliances. Look at his posts. Put 2 & 2 together. (Let's just say, there is a large, GP-shaped hole.)