Early Release Field Elements BOM.

[dlavery]

Originally Posted by Adam Richards

Actually, that would be kickoff day. The actual Kickoff event (at 10am) is about 2 days, 13 hours, 50 minutes away.

No it's not. It is 2 days, 9 hours and 42 minutes away. C'mon people! Let's be accurate out there!

-dave

(OK, lets see how long it takes for this to turn into the "kick-off count-down thread"...)

[Nuttyman54]

Originally Posted by dlavery

(OK, lets see how long it takes for this to turn into the "kick-off count-down thread"...)

don't we already HAVE a working kickoff counter...at the top of the page?

[Adam Richards]

Originally Posted by Nuttyman54

don't we already HAVE a working kickoff counter...at the top of the page?

That only goes to 12am on the day. We're counting till 10am.

[Nuttyman54]

Originally Posted by Adam Richards

That only goes to 12am on the day. We're counting till 10am.

alright then, looks like Brandon's got some work to do...c'mon, chop chop!

[Doug G]

Back to the latest news of a $125 item. I'm helping to organize the Kickoff at UC Davis, CA - and haven't heard anything about this. So this is not making sense unless someone has broken the cardinal rule of not opening the kits early or they're referring to a non-competition specific item. Maybe they got a good buy on software or cordless drills or something. Hmmm???

[Nuttyman54]

no word at San Jose State either

[Ethulin]

Originally Posted by Doug G

Back to the latest news of a $125 item. I'm helping to organize the Kickoff at UC Davis, CA - and haven't heard anything about this. So this is not making sense unless someone has broken the cardinal rule of not opening the kits early or they're referring to a non-competition specific item. Maybe they got a good buy on software or cordless drills or something. Hmmm???

I really hope they are not sending us cordless drills, for god's sake.

And seeing as he said "every team FRC team is going to need this
year" I firmly believe we really will need this, he has not let us down before.

[Doug G]

Originally Posted by Ethulin

I really hope they are not sending us cordless drills, for god's sake.

And seeing as he said "every team FRC team is going to need this
year" I firmly believe we really will need this, he has not let us down before.

Don't take this as "whining", but I find it peculiar that those setting up the the Kickoff in WA know enough about the game or what is in the kits to then help prep those teams by purchasing materials in advance for them at a discount. Why don't all the teams have that opportunity? Maybe they'll release an advance BOM today or something and we'll all go, "ohhhh". Although I still think they're referring to something that is non-game specific.

[MikeDubreuil]

Originally Posted by Doug G

Don't take this as "whining", but I find it peculiar that those setting up the the Kickoff in WA know enough about the game or what is in the kits to then help prep those teams by purchasing materials in advance for them at a discount. Why don't all the teams have that opportunity? Maybe they'll release an advance BOM today or something and we'll all go, "ohhhh". Although I still think they're referring to something that is non-game specific.

One thing is for certain about remote kick offs, they sometimes have fields. I can guarantee that there are certain team leaders on Chief Delphi who can not contribute to this thread because of what they know about the game- people like Andy Baker and Kevin Watson. If I'm not mistaken Andy Baker helps out with the remote kick off in the Indiana area. Kevin Watson has prepared software for robots at the kick off.

At this point in time, I'm sure people like Andy Baker have received a game manual in the mail. Tomorrow he will probably go to the venue and put together the field.

EDIT: Andy Baker is not setting up the remore kick-off and hasn't for the last several years. So he probably doesn't know the game

[Ryan Foley]

Originally Posted by MikeDubreuil

At this point in time, I'm sure people like Andy Baker have received a game manual in the mail. Tomorrow he will probably go to the venue and put together the field.

Actually, Andy's in NH for kickoff, since according to the FIRST Kickoff Workshop schedule he's giving a presentation tomorrow afternoon on chassis design with John Neun from team #20.

[MikeDubreuil]

Originally Posted by Ryan Foley

Actually, Andy's in NH for kickoff, since according to the FIRST Kickoff Workshop schedule he's giving a presentation tomorrow afternoon on chassis design with John Neun from team #20.

Point well taken...

My point of the post was to illustrate that FIRST relies on volunteers. Often times, those volunteers are involved with teams. Therefore, some people involved with competition teams already know what will be revealed to us regular folks on Saturday.

[jdhawg]

Originally Posted by MikeDubreuil

Point well taken...

My point of the post was to illustrate that FIRST relies on volunteers. Often times, those volunteers are involved with teams. Therefore, some people involved with competition teams already know what will be revealed to us regular folks on Saturday.

Last season we had a 'pre-meeting' a couple of days before the kick-off. One of our engineers said that we would all have a great time with the game. I asked how he knew and he told me that he had already built some game pieces for the kick-off at Stennis Space Center. It ended up he had built a handfull of tetras, a center goal and a regular goal. BUT, he couldn't / wouldn't tell us any of that and we didn't find out ANYTHING about the game until we got to Stennis.

I finally forgave him for keeping the secret. It wasn't until Atlanta for the Championships over a couple of drinks, but I did forgive.

[Madison]

Originally Posted by Doug G

Don't take this as "whining", but I find it peculiar that those setting up the the Kickoff in WA know enough about the game or what is in the kits to then help prep those teams by purchasing materials in advance for them at a discount. Why don't all the teams have that opportunity? Maybe they'll release an advance BOM today or something and we'll all go, "ohhhh". Although I still think they're referring to something that is non-game specific.

Doug, if I understand correctly, Kevin Ross is not helping with the remote kickoff. I presumed he may be because he obviously knows something more than the rest of us, but that may be through some other circumstance. FIRSTWA is a part of the Seattle Robotics Society, with which Kevin is a member.

I wasn't sure if I ought to mention anything about the e-mail here at all, as I don't have good answers as to why this is available to this region, but perhaps no others. Though, that said, I don't believe that Kevin, SRS or FIRSTWA would do anything improper or underhanded; so though I don't know why we're able to have this chance, we are and I thought others might want to be prepared for a relatively significant expense -- $125 practically covers travel expenses for one student on our team, so we certainly appreciate the savings.

[1075master]

a post on the game hint discussion mentioned that it said all teams. and they said maybe we will recieve info in the next email blast. probably when they release some of the bom and what not. i also just remembered that the person who recieved this info origianlly was a host of a kickoff.. they do need to know beforehand for setup purposes right? your right that would be improper for it to go just to them.. maybe they are the group purchasing it and then distributing it to others instead of first doing it??
something i just thought of!!
i think the fact that they are also stating that if we don't buy it then it will cost $125 means we WILL need it.

[Madison]

Originally Posted by 1075master

i also just remembered that the person who recieved this info origianlly was a host of a kickoff.. they do need to know beforehand for setup purposes right? your right that would be improper for it to go just to them.. maybe they are the group purchasing it and then distributing it to others instead of first doing it??

Again, Kevin -- the author of the e-mail -- is apparently not involved in Team 492's kickoff. See above. The message was sent from him to a mailing list and, once more, I do not believe Kevin would act with impropriety.