***THE GAME OFFICIAL: AIM HIGH***

[Greg Perkins]

True, but with the limitations of our motors, overdriving a provided motor from the kit at 50mph is about impossible.

[Rob36]

max distance the balls can shoot is 35 feet...
I'm assuming that this is ground to ground distance, or will we need our physics, and is it the distance the ball is in the air hahah
i assume that ground to ground, becasue this cant be too hard to calculate haha

[patTeam241]

Wasn't that what the little blue plowbot getting hit was about? Being careful w/ where you put your robot? I think that it's probably up to the drivers to keep the robot safe.

[whakojacko]

4.3.1<SO2> No ROBOT my throw a ball with an exit velocity of greater than 12 m/s (28.6 mph). [...] A Robot that violates this rule will be considered unsafe as per <S01>
EDIT:whoops, a little late. Oh well

[Rob36]

Even if its not in the rules, remember GP guys, don't build a bot to attack others, build it to work with the rest as a team, and have fun while youre doing it!

[Revolverx7]

So does anyone know yet whether it is 1 robot back during offense or deffense period? I'm stil unclear on that.

[mini-shelby692]

does anyone know how the human players are operating this year? do they continue to throw balls onto the field during the scoring periods when the balls are being pushed into the scoring zones?

*confuzzled*

[Rob36]

That is during the defensive period, therefore he will be on the offensive side and ya...

[mini-shelby692]

there is just one robot on defense "picked at random" (according to the manual)

[Ian Curtis]

Originally Posted by mini-shelby692

does anyone know how the human players are operating this year? do they continue to throw balls onto the field during the scoring periods when the balls are being pushed into the scoring zones?

*confuzzled*

You put your balls into your goal, which is right in front of the opposing human player (they are counted as they enter the goal). Then the opposing human player can do whatever he likes with them, most likely throwing them back on the field to his robot. Please guys, READ THE RULES!!

[Nhiem]

Has anyone any idea what the mass of the ball should be?

[Revolverx7]

Originally Posted by Nhiem

Has anyone any idea what the mass of the ball should be?

All I know is it is 7inch diameter foam ball.

[Rob36]

good question, my suggestiong would be to at least guesstimate at the moment, by seeing the s/h charges when ordering the balls, that i know we're doing today!

[Petey]

Originally Posted by Aburame Shino

Hey, quick question everybody. Has anybody found anything about point/disqualification penalties if your robot accidentally ends up hitting an opposing robot with one of the balls while it's being fired (like the opposing robot getting in the way at the last second)? Since the balls can be fired at up to 26.8 miles per hour, it seems like it could do some serious damage to an opposing robot if they accidentally get in the way. I can't find anything that talks about this unless the damage was intentional.

My friend, they are Nerf balls. I don't know if you've ever been hit with a nerf ball at that speed but it doesn't do anything more than leave a red mark that fades quickly.

If your robot falls prey to nerf balls, than you probably shouldn't be at comp.

Originally Posted by iCurtis

You put your balls into your goal, which is right in front of the opposing human player (they are counted as they enter the goal). Then the opposing human player can do whatever he likes with them, most likely throwing them back on the field to his robot. Please guys, READ THE RULES!!

Exactly. Read the rules--this "official" thread is 4 pages of spam. Please guys--I know 1073 has forbidden any team members to post anything at this time until it has been cleared by a committee to prove it hasn't been answered in the manual already. It would be nice if some of the forum members could exercise that restraint.

Two legitimate questions as yet unanswered by the manual:

A) Can you broadcast a green light that is the same as the tall green light in order to trick CMU cams during the match? Edit answered by <R31> negatively.

B) How will the balls in the corner goals be scored? It seems that the balls in the corner goals are also fodder for the opposing team's human player.

So are balls scored on their passage through the portal of the goal, or upon their final resting place? For instance, if am I, as the red team HP, allowed to remove a ball from the blue corner goal (which is on my side)?

It seems that you're able to, or else the HP would be denied ammunition. But doesn't this imply that emasculating your opponent's corner goal is as easy as emptying it at the end of the match in a flurry of Nerf? But I don't see anything about scoring-as-you-go, and FIRST has always been "tally at the end of the match"....rule <G39> is exquisitely ambiguous on this standpoint.

iCurtis, for the life of me I can't find any documentation to support your contention that balls are counted in progress. Please cite me a rule and prove it's not just a common sense deduction...

Insummary:Whence do human players derive their scoring objects, and does that derivation deprive their opponents of scored objects?

Breaking news from kickoff: our kickoff kids just got back and pointed out that there are cameras above each corner goal that apparently count as the balls are scored--so that seems to answer this question. Until I have verification from FIRST though...I'll wait and ask this in the official questions page.


When will the video of kickoff be up...

--Petey

p.s. I won't edit it like I originally did, but here's a strategy hint 1073 rookie Sean Sabo figured out. Take a good look at <G24> and think of a strange answer Dean gave during the game show that everyone laughed at, but perhaps shouldn't have.

[Rob36]

this appears that the scoring will not be a tally at the end, becasue the balls are removed after scored by human players and restocked on the field, correct?
anyways, yes, read the rules, and it is apparent that they didnt cover some important things such as the things you mentioned. Read the rules, ask later, thats what i'm doing so i'll be able to be more knowledgeable by the end of today