Go to Post How FIRST is helping: teaching me just how much I can achieve in 6 weeks. - Otaku [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > Competition > Rules/Strategy
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Closed Thread
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 08-01-2006, 10:40
Bharat Nain's Avatar
Bharat Nain Bharat Nain is offline
Registered User
no team
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Rookie Year: 2003
Location: New York
Posts: 2,000
Bharat Nain has a reputation beyond reputeBharat Nain has a reputation beyond reputeBharat Nain has a reputation beyond reputeBharat Nain has a reputation beyond reputeBharat Nain has a reputation beyond reputeBharat Nain has a reputation beyond reputeBharat Nain has a reputation beyond reputeBharat Nain has a reputation beyond reputeBharat Nain has a reputation beyond reputeBharat Nain has a reputation beyond reputeBharat Nain has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Bharat Nain Send a message via MSN to Bharat Nain
New alliance selection method

Although I think this game is one of the best I have seen in FIRST, I dislike the new type of alliance selection. First seed is not as valuable and it might actually make you lose if you seed first. Depending on the teams around, you might actually feel its better to seed 4-6th. Your thoughts?
__________________
-= Bharat Nain =-

Whatever you do, you need courage. Whatever course you decide upon, there is always someone to tell you that you are wrong. There are always difficulties arising that tempt you to believe your critics are right. To map out a course of action and follow it to an end requires some of the same courage that a soldier needs. Peace has its victories, but it takes brave men and women to win them. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 08-01-2006, 10:48
Koko Ed's Avatar
Koko Ed Koko Ed is offline
Serial Volunteer
AKA: Ed Patterson
FRC #0191 (X-Cats)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: Rochester,NY
Posts: 22,941
Koko Ed has a reputation beyond reputeKoko Ed has a reputation beyond reputeKoko Ed has a reputation beyond reputeKoko Ed has a reputation beyond reputeKoko Ed has a reputation beyond reputeKoko Ed has a reputation beyond reputeKoko Ed has a reputation beyond reputeKoko Ed has a reputation beyond reputeKoko Ed has a reputation beyond reputeKoko Ed has a reputation beyond reputeKoko Ed has a reputation beyond repute
Re: New alliance selection method

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bharat Nain
Although I think this game is one of the best I have seen in FIRST, I dislike the new type of alliance selection. First seed is not as valuable and it might actually make you lose if you seed first. Depending on the teams around, you might actually feel its better to seed 4-6th. Your thoughts?
It's like picking in a Fnatasy sports draft where the draft order is reversed in the next round.
The difference here is that most Fantasy drafts are ordered by a randomizer where this is penalizing teams that earned their position.
I think FIRST blew this call.
__________________
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 08-01-2006, 10:54
Joe J.'s Avatar
Joe J. Joe J. is offline
My Gaming Is FIRST!
AKA: Joey
FRC #0862 (Lightning Robotics)
Team Role: Coach
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Rookie Year: 2003
Location: Canton, MI, USA
Posts: 804
Joe J. has a reputation beyond reputeJoe J. has a reputation beyond reputeJoe J. has a reputation beyond reputeJoe J. has a reputation beyond reputeJoe J. has a reputation beyond reputeJoe J. has a reputation beyond reputeJoe J. has a reputation beyond reputeJoe J. has a reputation beyond reputeJoe J. has a reputation beyond reputeJoe J. has a reputation beyond reputeJoe J. has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Joe J.
Re: New alliance selection method

There was also this thread: Rule 8.4.1
__________________
Joe Jagadics
Lead Mentor / Coach
Lightning Robotics FRC Team 862


Last edited by Joe J. : 08-01-2006 at 10:57.
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 08-01-2006, 10:58
nuggetsyl's Avatar
nuggetsyl nuggetsyl is offline
Registered User
FRC #0025
Team Role: Coach
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: north brunswick
Posts: 869
nuggetsyl has a reputation beyond reputenuggetsyl has a reputation beyond reputenuggetsyl has a reputation beyond reputenuggetsyl has a reputation beyond reputenuggetsyl has a reputation beyond reputenuggetsyl has a reputation beyond reputenuggetsyl has a reputation beyond reputenuggetsyl has a reputation beyond reputenuggetsyl has a reputation beyond reputenuggetsyl has a reputation beyond reputenuggetsyl has a reputation beyond repute
Re: New alliance selection method

Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed
It's like picking in a Fnatasy sports draft where the draft order is reversed in the next round.
The difference here is that most Fantasy drafts are ordered by a randomizer where this is penalizing teams that earned their position.
I think FIRST blew this call.
I see where first was trying to go with this and i like the fact there trying to get the 8 seeds better parnters but i see teams not wanting to seed first because having 2 good robots is better then 1 good and 1 bad. I love this game and think it will be up there with 2000.

shaun
  #5   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 08-01-2006, 11:18
JohnBoucher JohnBoucher is offline
Blue Shirt
FRC #0237
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Rookie Year: 2003
Location: Watertown, CT
Posts: 2,927
JohnBoucher has a reputation beyond reputeJohnBoucher has a reputation beyond reputeJohnBoucher has a reputation beyond reputeJohnBoucher has a reputation beyond reputeJohnBoucher has a reputation beyond reputeJohnBoucher has a reputation beyond reputeJohnBoucher has a reputation beyond reputeJohnBoucher has a reputation beyond reputeJohnBoucher has a reputation beyond reputeJohnBoucher has a reputation beyond reputeJohnBoucher has a reputation beyond repute
Re: New alliance selection method

Great Change. Gives everyone something else to worry about. It's a huge boost to the 10 - 12 seeded teams.

I really don't believe that any team as much control over which seed you are. Just play smart and you'll be there.

I am concerned over the number of seeding matches there will be at the regionals. With 60 to 64 teams at a regional, EVERY match counts.
  #6   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 08-01-2006, 22:16
Lil' Lavery Lil' Lavery is offline
TSIMFD
AKA: Sean Lavery
FRC #1712 (DAWGMA)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Rookie Year: 2003
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 6,634
Lil' Lavery has a reputation beyond reputeLil' Lavery has a reputation beyond reputeLil' Lavery has a reputation beyond reputeLil' Lavery has a reputation beyond reputeLil' Lavery has a reputation beyond reputeLil' Lavery has a reputation beyond reputeLil' Lavery has a reputation beyond reputeLil' Lavery has a reputation beyond reputeLil' Lavery has a reputation beyond reputeLil' Lavery has a reputation beyond reputeLil' Lavery has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Lil' Lavery
Re: New alliance selection method

as I've said many a tiem before, anyone who didnt already worry about the 8th seed was foolish. Team 447 was on the 8th seeded alliance 3 times last year, 3 times it reached the finals. That's including the championship event.
I HATE this change. the #8 seed is now going to have the possibility of creating a very deadly 3 team alliance at the championship event because teh field is sooo much deeper there. It almost makes it bad to be the#1 alliance at the more competative events....
__________________
Being correct doesn't mean you don't have to explain yourself.
Closed Thread


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
2005 Palmetto Regional Billfred Regional Competitions 115 15-04-2005 00:19
Las Vegas Update SteveO Regional Competitions 31 09-04-2005 16:08
2005 West Michigan pathew100 Regional Competitions 59 09-04-2005 12:56
Alliance Selection 2005- Like it? OneAngryDaisy Rules/Strategy 42 14-03-2005 14:59
2003 IRI live on the web!! David Kelly Off-Season Events 44 22-07-2003 18:21


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:46.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi