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Re: A strange defense

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Ive seen out of control robots slam the drivers barrier (alum and plexiglass) at full speed over the years.
We've done that. A full-speed charge in high gear, which was about 16 fps in 2004....

It was our own alliance station, and certainly not by choice. (Autonomous mode failure, and conveniently, we were connected to the wrong E-stop in that practice match.)
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Re: A strange defense

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We've done that. A full-speed charge in high gear, which was about 16 fps in 2004....

It was our own alliance station, and certainly not by choice. (Autonomous mode failure, and conveniently, we were connected to the wrong E-stop in that practice match.)
Oh yes... I remember that. I believe it was at the Championship and we were your practice match partners maybe... and you slammed right in front of me driving? I know you guys did it more than once... in different matches. I could be wrong if it was you guys that match though... it happened to us multiple times there and in Chicago. Scary situation seeing a 130lb robot coming at you at full speed. I know I hit the floor last year... I have a problem with flinching... lol. I used to do it when our own robot that I was controlling would come really close to the player station...
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Re: A strange defense

I can say as a driver I often got tunnel vision. Even if a robot was stacking a tetra right in front of me I wouldn't necessairly notice. A ball flying at the plexiglass definitely won't phase many drivers. A full speed robot maybe, but balls... not a chance.
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Re: A strange defense

Our driver's nearly capped themselves last year when they tried to cap a home row goal while being defended! I can see plenty of balls hitting the wall, but I can't seen penalties getting called becuase I hope no team is stupid enough to wham balls at their opponents.
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Re: A strange defense

Come on. Just think it will tell if your drivers are really focused if a few balls get shot at their face. Well yeah it is kinda scary but after a while of it happening i'm sure that tehy will get use to it. But doing it intentionally definately goes agianst the spirit of the game.
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Re: A strange defense

This could get very bad, there is potential that I will get used to having things flying at my face and being reflected by the station wall... what happens when it comes to real life and I forget the wall isnt there?!!?

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Re: A strange defense

I think anyone who wants to be a driver this year should undergo 'projectile desensitivity training' throughout the 6 week build period

Having the larger foam balls flung at their head for several minutes at a time, until they learn not to flinch.

And to be most effective: no plexiglass panel to stand behind.

( I dont know if this will result in any measureable performace improvement of the driver during competition, but it sure would be fun to watch :^)

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Re: A strange defense

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I think anyone who wants to be a driver this year should undergo 'projectile desensitivity training' throughout the 6 week build period

Having the larger foam balls flung at their head for several minutes at a time, until they learn not to flinch.

And to be most effective: no plexiglass panel to stand behind.

( I dont know if this will result in any measureable performace improvement of the driver during competition, but it sure would be fun to watch :^)
Oh, itll be measurable all right when they have a black eye swollen shut after a 12 m/s ball nailed them in the face
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Re: A strange defense

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Re: A strange defense

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I think anyone who wants to be a driver this year should undergo 'projectile desensitivity training' throughout the 6 week build period

Having the larger foam balls flung at their head for several minutes at a time, until they learn not to flinch.

And to be most effective: no plexiglass panel to stand behind.

( I dont know if this will result in any measureable performace improvement of the driver during competition, but it sure would be fun to watch :^)
Robots have been known to take part in this "desensitizing" procedure.
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Re: A strange defense

Keep in mind that there are a limited amount of balls available, and once your robot loses control of that ball, whether by scoring, defending, or just playing around, then it is free to be picked up by anybody. Assuming you shoot it far away, you've got a 3-2 disadvantage at retrieving your alliance's own ball. Better to use it judiciously in gaining points than to momentarily distract one member of the opposing team.
Another interesting thought: if your robot is the backbot and it's wide enough, you could use it to block the view of an opposing driver; just be sure you get off the platform before the end of the match. Better door than window, right?
Gracious professionalism could be argued, but I see this defense as analogous to guarding the in-bounds pass on the basketball court. And you can't get much more graciously professional than the NBA, right?
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