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Re: What is the hardest (yet possible) task in this year's game?

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I think having an autonomous score of 100, all 30 team balls in the center goal and having the 10 point bonus will be one of the hardest to achieve part of this game.
To beat our team , and to do "everything" possible in the game.. like every other year.
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Re: What is the hardest (yet possible) task in this year's game?

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I think having an autonomous score of 100, all 30 team balls in the center goal and having the 10 point bonus will be one of the hardest to achieve part of this game.
The thing is, is that really possible? Can any alliance shoot all thirty balls into the center goal in ten seconds? My gut instinct says you won't see that happen. Ten, though, is entirely possible.
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Re: What is the hardest (yet possible) task in this year's game?

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The thing is, is that really possible? Can any alliance shoot all thirty balls into the center goal in ten seconds? My gut instinct says you won't see that happen. Ten, though, is entirely possible.
30 shots at the same 30 inch space in ten seconds seems like a midair collision to me. I agree with Billfred it just doesn't seem possible.

I actually have difficulty believing 10 in 10 seconds is possible without violating 12m/s with the first few shots.
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Re: What is the hardest (yet possible) task in this year's game?

Anyone that scores on the high goal while moving parallel to the plane of the goal while moving at least 5 fps. We aren't even going to try...

You could make this even more challenging by making it the first team to score more than five times per match using the above conditions.
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Re: What is the hardest (yet possible) task in this year's game?

Human scoring will be harder than it might seem. We mocked up something last night and practiced to see how easy or hard it will be and I'll be surprised if anyone can score 10 consecutively. Scoring is achievable - consecutively 10 times in a row will be a challenge from that distance and with robots running around.

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Re: What is the hardest (yet possible) task in this year's game?

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Human scoring will be harder than it might seem. We mocked up something last night and practiced to see how easy or hard it will be and I'll be surprised if anyone can score 10 consecutively. Scoring is achievable - consecutively 10 times in a row will be a challenge from that distance and with robots running around.
I'd agree with that one. We measured the distance, and it was really far. I doubt someone could make 5 consecutive shots even without the wall in front of them.
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Re: What is the hardest (yet possible) task in this year's game?

I'd say hitting the goal on the move, when not moving either parallel or perpendicular to the goal, so at some other angle than dead on or straight across as those are easy to account for, but when you not only change distance to the goal but also angle to it, thats tough, we thought about it, and it turns into such a painful calculation, it's probably one of the hardest feats in this game, whether in autonomous or in human mode.
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Re: What is the hardest (yet possible) task in this year's game?

with a spinning wheel shooter you can launch balls as fast as you can hopper them into the input side

Ive personally seen a soccer ball shooter like this that launched them about 40 feet, and if you fed it fast enough you could have several balls IN THE AIR at the same time. It literally fired a stream of soccer balls.

One problem with this (I mentioned in another thread) the wheels do slow down when you fire a ball, so you either need a powerful motor to spool them back up between shots, or you need a big flywheel.
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Re: What is the hardest (yet possible) task in this year's game?

well, i think the hardest thing to do this year would be to block the center goal shots...our team figured out one of the very VERY FEW ways to do it legally....but we couldnt do it due to power issues... , i was looking forward to it
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Re: What is the hardest (yet possible) task in this year's game?

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well, i think the hardest thing to do this year would be to block the center goal shots...our team figured out one of the very VERY FEW ways to do it legally....but we couldnt do it due to power issues... , i was looking forward to it
would this be blowing the balls out of the way with air? we were going to try that until we though about the power requirements...
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Re: What is the hardest (yet possible) task in this year's game?

Our defense strategy will be the hardest posiible play this year.
I won't say what it is because noone else here on CD has thought of it.
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Re: What is the hardest (yet possible) task in this year's game?

Yeah, the goal may be thirty inches wide, but with three 'bots shooting at the center goal I'd be surprised if even fifteen of the balls didn't hit another ball and miss. I say theres no way to get a hundred in autonomous.
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Re: What is the hardest (yet possible) task in this year's game?

The hardest possible task in this year's game? I would really love to see at least one team that can SMOOTHLY and ERRORLESSly 1. gather poof balls, 2. store them in a bank of some sort, 3. load some in the launching mechanism AND into the lower goals, 4. Aim for the Center high goal, and 5. Fire and hit nothing but air in between the 30 inch circle.

Other than that, perhaps the other hard but possible task is to find a winning strategy to play all defense.

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Re: What is the hardest (yet possible) task in this year's game?

Here's my evil thought for what it's worth.

Autonomous mode Shoot 10 balls in the center goal, tracking with the cam while move across the entire width of the field.
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Re: What is the hardest (yet possible) task in this year's game?

Perhaps a total round score of 125 points, it would be very hard to accomplish.
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