Does anyone else think this game will not be as good as I imagine it might be?

[Mike Norton]

I have to say I love this years game. I have been around for 12 years.

We can hit other robots and if we tip them over it will not be or fault as long as we hit them under the 8 1/2 " limit. this is big for us. We love to push other robots

http://www.valleytech.k12.ma.us/robo...20goal%201.jpg

a picture of what we can look forward to. because if you do not want to score you can hit and hit some more. we will see a lot of robot parts on the floor.

The best thing is if you do fall over you can be pushed up the ramp to score points.

for those how are thinking about putting something down on the rug to hold themselves down look at this

http://www.valleytech.k12.ma.us/robo...ping%20Bot.jpg

now see what happen to them

http://www.valleytech.k12.ma.us/robo...ing%20goal.jpg

Then I think we have some plans that might look like this

http://www.valleytech.k12.ma.us/robo...2%20Sunday.jpg

http://www.valleytech.k12.ma.us/robo..._ball-goal.JPG




I think the most of the scoring will be in the auto mode. then it we be defence

http://www.valleytech.k12.ma.us/robo.../ClearRamp.JPG

for those who can remember the auto mode for this year was very important

So let the fun begin

[KORN_lover_2007]

Originally Posted by CarpeDiem

I am all for this game, The rules are easy to understand and the game is on the diffucult side to stratigize for and design for. Which i am excited to start the designing and building.

I agree with you. This game does seem a lot easier to understand than Triple Play, but I don't know, that could have just been because I was a rookie last year and a little overwhelmed by everything. I also agree that it will be on the difficult side to strategize and design for. But that is one of the great things about FIRST, challenges! I can't wait to see the diversity of 'bots this game will bring.

[KORN_lover_2007]

[quote=Not2B]
This could have wider viewer appeal than past games.
QUOTE]
That is definitely a plus. And now, to infect even more outsiders with the beautiful program that is FIRST Robotics Competition....
Maybe we'll even get shown on ESPN soon, lol.

[mechanicalbrain]

Originally Posted by Mike Norton

I have to say I love this years game. I have been around for 12 years.

We can hit other robots and if we tip them over it will not be or fault as long as we hit them under the 8 1/2 " limit. this is big for us. We love to push other robots

http://www.valleytech.k12.ma.us/robo...20goal%201.jpg

a picture of what we can look forward to. because if you do not want to score you can hit and hit some more. we will see a lot of robot parts on the floor.

If you are trying to damage other peoples robots on purpose then you might want to re watch the kickoff movie. Remember gracious professionalism and what you can do sometimes come in conflict but gracious professionalism should always win. I really hope you don't go to regionals with the intent of damaging other robots.

[Mike Norton]

If you are trying to damage other peoples robots on purpose then you might want to re watch the kickoff movie. Remember gracious professionalism and what you can do sometimes come in conflict but gracious professionalism should always win. I really hope you don't go to regionals with the intent of damaging other robots.

We do not try to damage other robots. this is a full contact sport this year. that is why you can use a bumper. that is why FIRST tells everybody to put them on. This will stop the hard blow from a robot. but you have to remember we are playing defence and defence is pushing other robots

so just make sure your robots can be pushed and it will not you break anything.

If you make a robot so just a good push will break you then you have made your robot wrong. That is why the rule of pushing comes into play. If our robot pushes you and we are only pushing you at within 8" off the floor and you flip or something break that is not our fault this year. in the past it was a judge call. this year it is not.

So please do not think we play to damage other robots we do play by the rules

[Dave Flowerday]

Originally Posted by Mike Norton

If our robot pushes you and we are only pushing you at within 8" off the floor and you flip or something break that is not our fault this year. in the past it was a judge call. this year it is not.

It's still a judgement call:

Intentional ROBOT - ROBOT Interaction - Strategies aimed solely at the destruction, damage, tipping over, or entanglement of ROBOTs are not in the spirit of the FIRST Robotics Competition and are not allowed.

If you tip someone over, there is a judgement call as to whether or not you meant to do it. The things you've said in this thread suggest that you plan to hit with the hope of tipping someone over:

Originally Posted by Mike Norton

if we tip them over it will not be or fault as long as we hit them under the 8 1/2 " limit. this is big for us.

[Koko Ed]

[quote=KORN_lover_2007]

Originally Posted by Not2B

This could have wider viewer appeal than past games.
QUOTE]
That is definitely a plus. And now, to infect even more outsiders with the beautiful program that is FIRST Robotics Competition....
Maybe we'll even get shown on ESPN soon, lol.

FIRST had it's shot on ESPN years ago.
I doubt they'll be back.
Don't want to take away from that lucrative Texas Hold Em coverage you know.

[Billfred]

[quote=Koko Ed]

Originally Posted by KORN_lover_2007

FIRST had it's shot on ESPN years ago.
I doubt they'll be back.
Don't want to take away from that lucrative Texas Hold Em coverage you know.

By years, Ed means like Manchester-era FIRST. (The coverage I saw at Dean's house last year was of Tower Power, back in 1994.)

[Dark Paladin]

this game looks awesome but the diversity in robots will probably fall because most of them will have a gun and hopper of some sort and all the guns will work the same

[nic cameron]

i personally believe that the game is only as good as you make it. yeah, it will be total chaos, but isn't that the fun of it?

[dhitchco]

Hmmmm..what's "better" about this year's game (than 2004 Triple Play with tetras)....

last year was my first year as mentor in FIRST. Here's what I see as the big plusses to this year's game

1) Multi-level playing field. Robots that climb are much more like the real world
2) Lots of "stuff" in the playing field. There could be 50 or more loose balls on the field, a big plus for "hunting & gathering" unlike the mess left behind by tetras last year.
3) Lots more inter-team action "behind the scene" as human players, coaches and drivers can all get involved in harvesting balls.
4) More dependence on bots that be BOTH offensive and defensive. Not just crash boxes..grrr. We'll also have to carefully watch the 5-sec grace period to get behind the lines in periods #2 and #3
5) More emphasis on software and vision system. that's the wave of technology!
6) Much easier for the audience to "get it" in the game scoring
7) Much more need to think out the "dodgeball" game strategy...shoot first or gather first and shoot later on....hmmm.

[aaeamdar]

"I think the most of the scoring will be in the auto mode. then it we be defence"

I would disagree, but we'll see. There may be some significant advantages to abandoning defense in say the last 20 seconds to prepare for offense. This will help because of the "fast break" you can get. Also, since you receive ranking points for doing this, that's good .

[RY-GUY]

It is definitely different. It would appear to be quite confuseing. I think it will be an interesting challenge though. What you might think of doing is having a couple of people on your team start to make game plans just in case another team doesn't have an idea of what they are going to try to do.

Stay cool have fun.

[stinger]

yep. it may be that i'm a pessimist, but i get the feeling that this won't end well. Mostly because the robots of before could only cause choas within its reach. These ones have the potential to harm the crowds if things get out of control

[SenseiSkins]

I wonder how many teams will have really good working ball launching robots. We just tested ours and it went like 1 foot. I dont think were posting the video.