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Re: 2006 Autonomous Disappointment
Now, I have a question.
We're a rookie team this year and we probably won't use the camera as our programmers are very green and a launching mechanism is beyond the scope of our mechanical team. What are other options for the autonomous period? I have heard suggestions about a spiraling drive pattern, just to bump into other bots to screw them up. Would that be effective? or would the bumpings be inconsequential? Thanks |
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![]() If you drive around randomly in auto. with the intent of running into other robots, I would worry about damage to your robot or someone elses. (Although we had our robot run full speed across the field last year, and right into the other wall) But I don't think driving around like that would do much.. |
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Well I know that there are specific rules about ramming, but as far as the robot goes, I think we are pretty sure that we are going to ignore the top goals and just go for the sides. However, we aren't looking at a "garbage-can-dump-bot" like in the game animation, so the auton period seems useless to us.
Basically we decided to learn the CMU cam during the off season and get familiar with it to prepare for next year's competition. |
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If nothing else, try for a dead reckoning approach to blocking your opponents goal, ie: drive forward two seconds, turn left for 1/2 second, drive forward for 2 seconds - see where your robot ends up, then tweak the timing to get the robot more or less where you want it on the field. then have it just sit there or you could take the same approach and try to score one or two balls in the side goals. Even one point can be the difference between winning auton mode, if your alliance partners can score points as well who knows, you might have matches in which none of your opponents can score any points in auton. Then one point would be all you need! |
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Dead reckoning is using sensors on your robot to figure out its speed and direction and integrating to maintain an approximate location and heading. This is a widely misused term in FIRST... I'm not sure why. See wikipedia. Cheers! -Joe |
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I was under the impression dead reckoning was running without feedback, such as sensors, and just blindly driving, whether based on timers or loop counts or just setting your motors to a wide turn and leaving it. "dead reckoning n 1: an estimate based on little or no information [syn: guess, guesswork, guessing, shot] 2: navigation without the aid of celestial observations" http://dict.die.net/dead%20reckoning/ google turned this up, not sure of the validity, so I'm not really sure. Anybody have any other sources? |
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Alright then, I suppose that is the correct definition, but I still think dead reckoning can include running "blind" (Without sensors) its still assumption based.
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dead reckoning: any mode of navigation in which you are likely to end up dead :^)
the real defining difference is navigation with no outside references. Looking at your speedometer and driving for 30mph for 5 minutes, or running a boat engine as fast as it can go for 10 minutes, then turning left, going for 5 minutes... if you use a compass, or GPS, or sensors that detect outside waypoints (lighthouses for example, or light beacons....) then you are not dead reckoning. Even the use of a compass is in between, because it can tell you direction, but not distance - so with a compass you only know which way your are pointing, not where you are (and not really which way you are moving, because a compass in water cannot indicate the effects of current, wind and tides). Im not sure that having feedback sensors on your wheels, or using a timer (counting clock pulses) makes a difference. Your wheels can slip, the tires can wear, another robot could be pushing you backwards while your wheels are spinning forwards, so I dont see how a wheel sensor is any more accurate or reliable than going by applied motor power and timer clicks? Last edited by KenWittlief : 15-01-2006 at 17:33. |
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ah heck, what am i thinking, thats bull only giving us 10 seconds, and my freind says hi, an you can use the autonomous mode next year . |
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