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Unread 16-01-2006, 15:29
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Re: 10 Balls per second?

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FAKE, I got PROOF it is a Fake. Check out the attached pic to explain it all or read and/or read explanation. Look at the bottom of the goal. watch as the balls to 'throuth the goal right', as they cross through the goal and WE KNOW that the balls go into the goal, disappear as they are blocked from view by the bottom of the ring and reappear in the gap and then disappear again when they go behind the stand. However, they are being caught by a guy standing IN FRONT of the goal into a garbage can. NOT POSSIBLE. TOTAL FAKE.
I watched the video - I see what you mean.

the plywood that the guy with the garbage can is standing infront of is a crate or something in the background - its not attached to the goal.

It does look confusing because you cannot measure depth in a 2D video like this, and the crate and the goal are the same color plywood. If it was shot from the side you would see:

Crate______Guy with can______Goal_______<balls going left____Guy by launcher.

the simplist explaination in this case is the correct one.
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Unread 16-01-2006, 15:42
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Re: 10 Balls per second?

Here's my take on it. Whether is is a robot or not, that is 10 balls, going through one hole, without any missing, in a very short period of time. Quite impressive I must say.
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Unread 16-01-2006, 15:44
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Re: 10 Balls per second?

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I watched the video - I see what you mean.

the plywood that the guy with the garbage can is standing infront of is a crate or something in the background - its not attached to the goal.

It does look confusing because you cannot measure depth in a 2D video like this, and the crate and the goal are the same color plywood. If it was shot from the side you would see:

Crate______Guy with can______Goal_______<balls going left____Guy by launcher.

the simplist explaination in this case is the correct one.
Yes, it would make sense if it is a crate back there. However, there still isn't any proof that anything they could put on a robot will do this. And the sound is still puzzling me, count how many wooshes you hear during launching. Can someone split this and get a sound print picture to count them? Versus how many balls are launched, I think I count 7 wooshes but only 5 balls. What is that voice saying in the end, why is there a crash at the end of the launching?

I suspect they have some laucher set up with a tube full of 10 balls. Turn it on and have a kid push down on the tower of balls and quickly force them all into the launcher part.

The sound sucks in the first video it does 2 different tones it starts boop, boop, boop, then goes beep, beep, beeep. The second half sounds like drums and the first almost like a xylophone. I suspect the first was sped up and reversed. And also look at the balls going in, wouldn't a mechanical launcher to it more uniformly instead of having 2 go in a the same time?
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Unread 16-01-2006, 15:52
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Re: 10 Balls per second?

the launcher is 100% real. I know this because i made it. it is roughly based on a pitching machine. And it is possible to have a version mounted to a robot.

See yall in competiton.
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Re: 10 Balls per second?

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the launcher is 100% real. I know this because i made it. it is roughly based on a pitching machine. And it is possible to have a version mounted to a robot.

See yall in competiton.
But in the second vidoe, you only launched 5 balls in my guestimated .7 seconds, and I don't quite trust the first video enough. Ok, the launcher is real, but does it 100% launch that many balls?
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Re: 10 Balls per second?

Settle Down folks.

#1, if it is not a fake, very impressive, but... ...it is not terribly different than the Rage Team showed with their videos.

#2, if it is a fake, so what? ... ....it is not terribly different than the Rage Team showed with their videos.

#3, let's all try to keep from liable and name calling... ...it is not terribly different than those So and So's over at Rage Team showed with their faked videos - JUST KIDDING!!!

#4 settle down, seriously.

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Re: 10 Balls per second?

Even if it isn't a robot doing it, it proves it can be done. And therefore, there is a high probability that a robot can be built to do it.
So what if it's a fake, it's THEIR time they are using to make a fake video, and its YOUR time you are wasting arguing over it. If it's fake, they can't use it in the competition against you anyway, so get over it...
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Re: 10 Balls per second?

Rage's device is more impressive than ours, bottom line. What is really funny is that they posted their videos in the Robot Showcase forum, and I posted this in the Rumor Mill. The forum heading has to lead you to SOME conclusions...
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Unread 16-01-2006, 19:38
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Re: 10 Balls per second?

We have something to be just about that quick...you will all see it soon enough.
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Re: 10 Balls per second?

ya, rage's video is wicked sick. And I think I figured out how it works. I'll give you a hint: look at the fan in a leaf blower.
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All I got to say Is be afraid, be very afraid
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Re: 10 Balls per second?

Team 1327's first try got under 3 seconds. Still need more control for aim, but proves that it is possible to get close to 1 second.
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Re: 10 Balls per second?

Hey that is good! We can only shoot 5 balls per second How did u do it???
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Re: 10 Balls per second?

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Team 1327's first try got under 3 seconds. Still need more control for aim, but proves that it is possible to get close to 1 second.
Wow! Good work, guys!
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Re: 10 Balls per second?

We are still working on our mount for the robot, but this prototypye used two wheels powered by using one stage of the standard transmision and the CIM805-001 (small CIM) motors. this provides more than enough power and requires the controller to "throttle down" the power to keep the wheels spinning at the allowed speed. The wheels are 12" pneumatics from a previous years robot. Now on to making the mounts for the robot. From our testing it appears to be important how the balls enter the shooter as to how straight the ball will shoot.

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