pic: Kit Transmission Upgrade kit

[Cory]

Originally Posted by ICE MAN

I am for one very disappointed with the upgrade part that is "supposed" to allow for the mini bike motor to be linked with the standard cim in the kit. one the instructions call for a 8mm id 3x8" long washer and a 1/4" long washer, both of which where not present in the box when the shipment finally arrived. second the 28-toothed MB gear can barley if any slide down on our mini-bike output shaft. i know this seems to be a little over the edge but to me when you purchase a upgrade for a certain part or object the upgrade should one, be of little ease to install and second have all of the parts that are needed for the completion of the upgrade.

If you had read the assembly directions before you bought the kit, you would have been able to see that Andy clearly lists the parts you mention as not being provided in the upgrade kit. You should be able to buy some washers and nuts. It's a waste of Andy/Mark's time to go and buy a whole boatload of washers to include in their kits when you can just as easily drive down to OSH/Lowes/Home Depot/any other local hardware store.

Originally Posted by ICE MAN

i know Andy mark is a good guy, but my team has no time to waste as i well know every FRC team has no time to waste to try to install an upgrade and not have it work. i have purchased his products before and they always have been of high precision and quality, but this current product is by far our worst product. instead of getting the motors installed in a few hours we have wasted two days trying to make parts for a "part" that is supposed to already work and fit on the mini-bike motor. if Andy mark does read this reply then i highly ask and urge him to look over every product that he sends and makes sure that all of the parts are in the box when it is shipped. to every one else who has already purchased one of these upgrades i hope and wish that you have better luck than we have.

Im sorry, but this statement COMPLETELY baffles me. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you buy the upgrade kit so that you wouldn't have to make all these parts yourself? Andy provided you a fantastic service, at a fantastic price, since as you've already said, you don't have the time to waste by making all these pieces yourself. That being said, I'd be a hell of a lot happier to have spent $28 and another what, $2.50 on washers and be able to adapt my motors than to be stuck in a position where I was unable to use the motors due to the belt drive. Any amount of time you spend trying to get the upgrade put together is going to be a whole lot less than if you had to make everything yourself.

Andy and Mark are providing FIRST with fantastic, competitively priced products. Just because you buy something from them does not mean that it's going to magically assemble itself and bolt to your robot. Nowhere do they tell you that it will require no work on your own part. In the future, if you think their products are of marginal quality, I suggest you design your own adaptor, and machine it to your own specifications. Perhaps then you'd appreciate the value of their services.