Hi! We just upload our Website...

Shlomi32 · #1 23-01-2006, 03:58

I'd love to hear some reflections... (:

www.avivrobotics.net

JohnBoucher · #2 23-01-2006, 04:38

Looks great. Very readable and easy to navigate. Good job.

Your index page has a large white space in the middle of the page. What are your plans for that?

On the technical side, I have a few comments.

You appear to have a script testing for browser type and then serving a different image depending on the result. What was happening that made you that route?
There is no DOCTYPE declared, so the document will not pass validation (http://validator.w3.org/) and throws the page into quirks mode for IE.
Your style.css file has html tags <style> and </style>. They will prevent the file from working properly.
The link to FIRST does not work use www.usfirst.org

Great job.

Shlomi32 · #3 23-01-2006, 12:51

Thanks for your advice.

We would appreciate it very much if you could be more specific about the w3c validation part and the browser script.

All the other problems were fixed.
We are aware of the fairly blank index page, it will have content in the next few days.
We would also appreciate any further suggestions and problems you bring to our attention.

Thanks
Steampunk robotics
Team 1577

JohnBoucher · #4 23-01-2006, 13:57

Hey,

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) http://www.w3.org/ develops and publishes the standards for web-based technologies.
They offer validators for your use (html, xml, css, etc) to see if your code meets the standards.
That said, not all browsers (IE) render the standards correctly. IE does it's own thing.
The DOCTYPE tells the browser how to render your page. Your pages do not have a DOCTYPE declared. The following is from ChiefDelphi....

Quote:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html dir="ltr" lang="en">
<head>

Depending on what version of html you are writing, you should declare what it is. If not tell the browsers to revert to their default or Quirks mode. You now have less control over how the page looks on different browsers.
You have this java script embedded

Quote:

browserName = navigator.appName;
browserVer = parseInt(navigator.appVersion);
if (browserName == "Netscape" && browserVer >= 3) browserVer = "1";
else if (browserName == "Microsoft Internet Explorer" && browserVer == 4) browserVer = "1";
else browserVer = "2"

that appears to be looking to deliver different images depending on what browser is being used. I was wondering if you were having trouble with the images because of the missing DOCTYPE.

Dan Zollman · #5 23-01-2006, 16:28

Some aesthetic things...

The page is very plain. That's both a good and bad thing.
The calendar is very far to the right, so the window has to be maximized and/or on a high resolution to see it without scrolling right. A percentage width might work better for the middle section.
I don't mean to be nitpicky, but the page very unbalanced, i.e. full of text and images on the left, and almost empty on the right. I'm not sure if that last thing is any help at all, but I noticed it.

Shlomi32 · #6 23-01-2006, 19:27

Hi there...

Firstly I thank you all for your help...

The plain page in the middle of the index page will be changed during the next few days.

I declared a DOCTYPE in most of the pages, except for the pages that contain asp and vbscript content (do not know how to declare asp 6.00 DOCTYPE yet)

In addition I liked the advice that was given to use a percentage width for the middle section but when I tried to use it, it didn't work. How should I write it?

DarkJedi613 · #7 23-01-2006, 19:46

Looks nice, it took a long time to load the first time, however, on the schools T3 line.

I'm not positive but I believe the doctype declaration would be the same. I know for PHP you would use the same doctype as if it were just an HTML document (i.e. I use transitional on all my pages, even if there is no dynamic content). Also, I'm not sure if you are, but including the navigation automatically would be better if you aren't already (which I don't think you are since the pages are just HTML).

Rohan_DHS · #8 23-01-2006, 20:59

looks pretty good =) good job on the site...approx how long did it take you to make this, if you dont mind me asking?

Clam · #9 23-01-2006, 21:01

wow, it's awesome! love the clean sleek design, and the downloads page too! The thing is the home page is a bit blank in the middle....

oh yea, and we just updated our site too, check it out on my other anonobots-1190 thread and tell me what you think!

Greg Marra · #10 23-01-2006, 21:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shlomi32

I declared a DOCTYPE in most of the pages, except for the pages that contain asp and vbscript content (do not know how to declare asp 6.00 DOCTYPE yet)

Yea, I believe the doctype should be the same as a regular HTML file. After the server parses all of the asp commands, it just passes plain HTML to the client.

The site is pretty snazzy looking! I dislike your use of images in the navigation menus instead of plain text, but everything seems to be functional. Nice work!

Arkorobotics · #11 23-01-2006, 21:43

Works great on a mac (safari). Nice menu design btw. I like the scrolling thing on the right. Nice work

!

Dan Zollman · #12 24-01-2006, 11:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shlomi32

In addition I liked the advice that was given to use a percentage width for the middle section but when I tried to use it, it didn't work. How should I write it?

I haven't had a chance to take a closer look at the source code, which I can do later, but for a table cell you can add the attribute
width="XX%"
i.e. <td width="XX%" anotherattribute="value"> etc. (fill in a number)
It's best to experiment with different percentages.
With CSS, use
td.classname { width: XX%; }
but it looks like you're using HTML attributes for the table cells.

Shlomi32 · #13 24-01-2006, 13:46

Hi

DOCTYPE for asp is the same and I have fixed it.

Quote:

Also, I'm not sure if you are, but including the navigation automatically would be better if you aren't already

what do you mean by saying automatic navigation?

Quote:

looks pretty good =) good job on the site...approx how long did it take you to make this, if you dont mind me asking?

No I don't mind at all:

We were working on the website fluently for about a month or so.

I'm glad that you liked the design...
By the way i'll start working on the percentage width and i'll let you know about it...
And one more thing.
The plain space in the middle of the home page is no longer an issue. (i hope)

Clam · #14 24-01-2006, 18:13

wow, one month, impressive work!

Shlomi32 · #15 24-01-2006, 20:18

thanks...

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