Ramp Scoring, At 00:00 or After?

[AmyPrib]

Originally Posted by Rombus

So my team was talking about how we would be going up the ramp and i came up with 2 questions:

1. When Is the ramp points actually scored? If your on the ramp and not the top of it, there is potential to rollback when the robot is disabled, so if we are clearly on the ramp at the end of the game, but rollback due to the end of the game, would we get points or not?

2. Lets say Redabot is blocking Blueabot, The rest of Blueabots team is on the ramp except for BlueabotC, Rather than try and get around Redabot, BlueabotC pushes Redabot up the ramp. Redabot is touching BlueabotC but Redabot is clearly on the ramp and not touching the carpet. Does this count as points or not since there is a point of contact to the carpet via blueabotC?

In 2003 Game Rules, it says: "An additional 25pts will be awarded to each robot that is touching only the top of the platform at the end of the match."

In 2004 Game Rules it says: "A robot that is hanging from the bar at the end of the match will receive 50pts".

In 2006 Game Rules it says: "Robots score points if they are entirely on the alliance platform at the end of the match".

In both previous years, it meant at the end of the match and beyond. You could not touch the grating, or roll down the ramp in 2003 to be considered on the platform, and in 2004, you coudn't be touching the ground to be considered hanging. Yes, this is historical reference, but seems to be a trend of their intention, and actually I never would have thought to question this meaning. I would go with the same concept this year, but if you want to be sure, ask Q/A.

Since being "on the platform" in all of the cases, including this year, means they might even have to do a "belly check" (getting on the ground with a piece of paper) to make sure you aren't touching areas you're not supposed to be, one would assume that you must remain on the ramp long enough to be scored by the refs. You cannot expect the refs to be able to do this dynamically at the instant the time hits 0, nor expect the scoring table to be sure you're actually on the ramp to do the real-time.

The second question has been answered already and is in the rules: It doesn't matter if you are touching a robot that is touching the carpet - if your robot is fully on the platform per the rules, then your robot will count as on the platform.

That's my take.