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Unread 24-01-2006, 16:28
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Re: What is the hardest (yet possible) task in this year's game?

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How about one bot collecting and holding all 80 balls on the playing field? That would be quite interesting to see.
The problem with that is since any ball you score is up to the opponent to put back into the field, the only real feasible way to achieve that is you don't score any points after autonomous mode. And by the time you have all the balls, probably around the last quarter if ever, they will just put all three of their robots defending your one robot that has balls, making it impossible to score those 80 balls, which most likely means you lose
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Re: What is the hardest (yet possible) task in this year's game?

As the weeks go by and the physics of the game sinks in, I think the real magic trick is going to be finding a way to guard or block the center goal, parked infront of it (not chasing robots around to block their shots).

I notice the rules say you cannot extend in a 'stable configuration' above a certain height - does that mean you could take swipes at a ball in flight, if your flailing arms are not 'stable' ?

Could you have a bot with a big sticky tongue that shoots out and snatches balls out of the air, like flys?

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Re: What is the hardest (yet possible) task in this year's game?

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As the weeks go by and the physics of the game sinks in, I think the real magic trick is going to be finding a way to guard or block the center goal, parked infront of it (not chasing robots around to block their shots).

I notice the rules say you cannot extend in a 'stable manner' above a certain height - does that mean you could take swipes at a ball in flight, if your flayling arms are not intristically 'stable' ?

I think the rule means that its ok if you exceed the height limit if an accident happens and your robot flips over and the diagonals goes over 5 feet.

Other wise the height rule pretty much says you cannot block the goal or other robot's firing mechanism. Well unless their shooter is not placed at the max height, which I doubt since that would make their shooter very easily blocked.

The closest thing I've heard about interfering with a shooter other than just plain collision of robots is using pneumatics to blow air in front of opponent shooters to offset the flight path of the launched ball. However I'm not entirely sure this is legal so you probably should check on that. Also since you have to take time to recompress air it will not be consistant.
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Re: What is the hardest (yet possible) task in this year's game?

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The problem with that is since any ball you score is up to the opponent to put back into the field, the only real feasible way to achieve that is you don't score any points after autonomous mode. And by the time you have all the balls, probably around the last quarter if ever, they will just put all three of their robots defending your one robot that has balls, making it impossible to score those 80 balls, which most likely means you lose

Don't forget that the hypothetical robot holding all 80 balls has 2 partner robots to help "move" the opposing robots out of the way. Certainly you have a valid point, but I do believe that hording and scoring late is going to be a powerful strategy.

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Re: What is the hardest (yet possible) task in this year's game?

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In my opinion, it is impossible to score 10 balls in 10 sec. For a ball to be scored, it must exit the chute: "<G05> In order for a ball to score, it must enter the goal and exit via the exit chute..." this takes anywhere between 1 and 3 sec. (with multiple balls).

This leaves you with 7 seconds to shoot all of the balls (7/10ths of a sec. per ball). To shoot more than one ball per second using a CIM to drive two 8" wheels a few thousand rpm a flywheel is required. To bring your shooter up to speed it takes around 3 seconds.

The final total is 4-6 seconds to shoot 10 balls (2/5-3/5ths of a sec. per ball). Anyone who can shoot and score all 10 balls in 4 seconds autonomously deserves more than an award.
Impossible, eh? Too long to spin up? Well then, I'll make a 2 Big CIM/2 Little CIM/2 FP/Van Door/Globe/Window Motor Shooter that can spin up in .1 seconds and shoot 60 balls per second!

I guess the point I'm trying to make is nothing is impossible. Its just.. some thing are very hard.
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Get most points in both center and corner goals. don't think anyone can multitask that much
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Re: What is the hardest (yet possible) task in this year's game?

How about scoring five out of ten balls in the center goal from the starting position during autonomous
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Re: What is the hardest (yet possible) task in this year's game?

What about scoring all 10? I think its possible, yet difficult...for some....
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Re: What is the hardest (yet possible) task in this year's game?

how about shooting while moving?
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Re: What is the hardest (yet possible) task in this year's game?

Ah that's fairly simple
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Re: What is the hardest (yet possible) task in this year's game?

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Ah that's fairly simple
well yea we can do it...but i mean shooting all 10 balls in autonomous while moving and getting atleast most of them in
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Re: What is the hardest (yet possible) task in this year's game?

Definitially a trick
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Re: What is the hardest (yet possible) task in this year's game?

I think the autonomous is the hardest part of this years competition because of the alloted time. its only 10 second. fortunately at team 815 we have 15 different autonomous codes
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Re: What is the hardest (yet possible) task in this year's game?

this seems slightly pointless
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