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View Poll Results: Would you rather have a nice looking robot or a winning robot?
Quality Robot 53 32.52%
Winning Robot 110 67.48%
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Re: Winning Robot or Quality Robot?

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Why isn't there an option for "Both"?
I agree. The past two years we have had a quality robot that was winning all sorts of awards. It’s all about your design and even your drivers, because lets face it, you can have the best robot around but with bad drivers it’s nothing more than metal. The only un-quality thing we did was last year we were running a motor just below stall (van door motor) and it got really hot after about 10 min and wouldn’t function. Good thing the matches were only 2.5 min long!
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Re: Winning Robot or Quality Robot?

I've experienced being on a team with a "winning" robot at the top level (Team 45 at the 1998 Championship) and the team with probably the highest quality robots in FIRST (Team 233). Winning the Championship is much more fun than just having the highest quality robot.

That said, the missing choice of "both" in the poll would be my pick. I hope to have the experience this year of winning the Championship with a very high quality robot. Of course, a lot of other teams will be trying very hard to prevent that from happening.
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Re: Winning Robot or Quality Robot?

Where is the choice for "neither one is important" while i like wearing winning meals as much as the next one and getting complete satisfaction from seeing a beautiful robot. The real payoff for me is the kids faces when they get that spark and realize that they can do something. Winning a regional is a great to substantiate that feeling but in my opinion even if you have the worst robot on the field you can still have a winning season. Some of my best years with team 73 were ones when we didn't ever make the eliminations and it was all about how much the kids learned and how much fun we had.



What good is winning if all the kids get out of it is a metal?
what good is quality if all the kids get is a pretty piece of metal?


but along with this thread. I would rather have a winning robot because i know that if the robot wins the kids did alot of good work.
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Re: Winning Robot or Quality Robot?

I couldn't vote on this one. From my experience in FIRST, Quality drivers make a winning robot. You obviously need a robot that works well but it is the drivers who win competitions, not robots alone. I say this from personal experience.
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Re: Winning Robot or Quality Robot?

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I couldn't vote on this one. From my experience in FIRST, Quality drivers make a winning robot. You obviously need a robot that works well but it is the drivers who win competitions, not robots alone. I say this from personal experience.
It takes a lot of things to win competitions and good drivers is one of them, along with strategy, a robot capable of playing the game well, and a robot of high enough "quality" to be reliable for the duration of the competition season. Then there is the element of luck which is a part of almost any type of competition.
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Re: Winning Robot or Quality Robot?

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You obviously need a robot that works well but it is the drivers who win competitions, not robots alone.
"and the monkey throws the switch" -Major West (Lost in Space Movie) *

sorry, I could not resist that one :^)

dont rule out the importance that auton mode has gained in the last few years, and that a well engineered robot can be very easy to drive compaired to a poorly designed robot that lurches across the playfield like it has a mind of its own.

[ * in the movie the spacecraft was suppose to be fully automated, and West complained that his years of combat flight experience were being wasted on a ship that could be flown by a trained monkey ]

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Re: Winning Robot or Quality Robot?

i would rather have a higher quality robot because it is a learning experience for us kids. I'm not saying it wouldn't be nice to win the championship but my personel opinion is that i want to learn as much as i can while i am here, i would rather have a good time than win a championship but if you were to ask me if i want that championship i will not hesitate to tell you yes i do so it all depends on the person.
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Re: Winning Robot or Quality Robot?

I read the question as though a winning robot means that it doesn't need to really do anything particularly well, as long as it got the gold. With this in mind, the choice was simple.

Quality, hands down. A winning robot does not mean a good robot, and especially with this year's alliance selections, some lower-quality robots will end up in the winner's circle.

I see two scenarios:

In the first, you have the scrappy robot that got picked by the 1 and 2 seed alliance, and though you scored 5 points throughout eliminations your partners carried you through easily. This team's robot will be seen as the one that got a lucky break and snuck by on someone else's win. If this happened to my team and I overheard a comment such as this, I would be crushed.

The second scenario is the high-quality robot that happens to lose. Maybe an alliance partner broke, there was an unlucky call, or a driver did the wrong thing. As a quality robot you probably reached eliminations, and perhaps you were the captain of your alliance. Everyone sees you lose and thinks of you as a great robot that almost made it, and certainly a team to keep in mind for the future. People compliment you on your design and you see that although you didn't make it all the way, you had a killer robot. FIRST has always tried to teach us that winning is not the ultimate goal; what you take away from a competition should be more than just a trophy (even if you didn't get one!).

Of course a high-quality robot that rocks the competition would be great too, but, given the choices, I would not sacrifice quality for gold.
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