Programmers Guild?

[Keith Watson]

Originally Posted by X-Istence

Pfft, Freshmen in high school never get appreciated

[mallot1243]

I created this thread for the idea of making a much simpler way of sharing ideas amongst programmers, learning different types of programming, and helping the newbs learn. This isn't just to complain about the underappreication of the programmers. I should have explained myself before I went on a initial tangent like I did.

[Andrew Blair]

Originally Posted by mallot1243

I created this thread for the idea of making a much simpler way of sharing ideas amongst programmers, learning different types of programming, and helping the newbs learn. This isn't just to complain about the underappreication of the programmers. I should have explained myself before I went on a initial tangent like I did.........

It seems that programmers are the most underappreciated members of a team. Without us there would only be a robotic beauty contest.

Hmmm.. you wouldn't have thought that from the beginning... But I'm not so sure. If you need more appreciation than a perfectly running autonomous...

[BlackRoboDragon]

I'm sorry for going off like I did, I probably should have just left it alone, but I just don't really like seeing people start a thread, with replys that are the same, that just complains about how their sub team is the most under appreciated. It kind of gets under my skin, you know? It's just that I don't see people complaining a lot, and I usually like to just speak my mind about most stuff. I'm sorry if i seemed rude or anything to anyone, it was just a misunderstanding, and I did just kind of go off there. Again, sorry for intruding on programming space, and for going off like I did.

[Robert Flanagan]

Originally Posted by mallot1243

It seems that programmers are the most underappreciated members of a team. Without us there would only be a robotic beauty contest.

I, as a programmer am gonna have to disagree with this point. I joined the team in out second year and we had about 7 people. Now that 7 has grown to about 22. The entire team works together as a whole and everything that is done is appreciated by every different aspect of the team. First is all about finding it in yourself to not just excel as a person but as a member of a team. The mechanical and electrical work just as hard as us programmers and everyone needs to understand that. We dont deserve special treatment because we make the brain work because without a functioning bod the brain is useless.

[LordTalps]

The trick to managing the different teams is quite often, you have fewer programmers than any other team has people. It's much harder to understand major changes in programming than it does for mechanical (electrical gets hard too though). Programmers are necessary just as each group is necessary. Of course, they also have more responsibility in a sense than others. Mechanical can test most of their parts at any time. electrical much the same. Programmers need the entire bot put together to fully test. Testing in parts can work, but only so often...

Probably a bit pompous, being a programmer. 90% of FIRST is teamwork though.

[thegathering]

Originally Posted by LordTalps

Programmers need the entire bot put together to fully test. Testing in parts can work, but only so often...

That is until we programmers design simulations to test our bots before they're constructed.

Our programmers on our team play the Jack of All Trades role on the robot construction and design, and then tucker down to sleepless nights to get the code working for our designs.

Most of our mentors on our team are also programmers, so no programmer on our team feels unappreciated or neglected being that we are the ones getting all the attention on the team.

Interestingly, as well as getting attention, it's the programmers on our team that are expected to be social, giving presentations and schmoozing with sponsors to demonstrate our knowledge, even though most of us are more comfortable in front of a monitor in a dark room for 18 hrs a day than even having a simple conversation with another person.