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Re: pic: 2006 HOTBOT

As always The hot team came up with another HOT BOT.

I like those wheels... and the chassis.

Question and request, how does your shooter work and it would be nice to have a video of the hotbot.
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Re: pic: 2006 HOTBOT

Here's my guess,

The shooters wheels shoot the ball initially faster than the 12m/s... however due to gravity and whatnot that the intertial force of the ball coming out of the cannon keeps it against the chute. And as it slowly stats to lose momentum after breaching the top of the chute, it slows down to the maximum speed alotted by FIRST. This is the only way it works, that I can see anyway. I assume your just lobbing them from the ramp?
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Re: pic: 2006 HOTBOT

The exit degree looks to be around 45-55 degrees. My guess is that they are a long shooter, probably from the other side of the field. I also see a turret in there. But the netting baffles me, does it close or opens up? Hmm quite interesting. This I same bot ill be inspecting closer at GLR.
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Re: pic: 2006 HOTBOT

The shooter is the same as their ball picker upper. They spin the wheels slower to pick up from the floor, which dumps balls into the vertical net, so they fall into the basket.

Perhaps?
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Re: pic: 2006 HOTBOT

I think the netting goes up to act as some sort of backboard for balls being thrown in by the human player.
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Re: pic: 2006 HOTBOT

Walt said in another thread that they're not doing floor pickup.
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Re: pic: 2006 HOTBOT

I know how it works, but I'll leave the details of the shooter mechanism to Jim or Pat.

I don't know if there's any video, but I know there will be after Great Lakes.

Greg, are you referring to lobbing from the ramp on the other side of the field?

We do not pick up from the floor, only receive from the human player.
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Re: pic: 2006 HOTBOT

All of this is speculation until they tell us but:
Loader:
Genius hopper deisgn with a damping backboard that flips completely parallel to the ground for easy human shots. Also note the nicely machined part at the bottom of the hopper for feeding one ball only while agitating the other balls to avoid getting clogged.

Shooter:
Seems like some sort of wheel at the bottom that launches something up the ramp with an angle condusive to launching things from any up to 25 feet away fairly accurately. There will be plenty of spin on the ball too (some people speculated that spin will help keep the path of the ball straight) if that makes any sense. Also, a turret on that shooter to maximize scoring oppurtunities.

Drive: looks like a lot of chain, which i have noticed in many strong teams this year. Very red wheels, but i cant tell anything about it besides that from this piture on this monitor.

other notes:
The light sensor that is used to (i suspect) sense the speed of the wheel and change that speed depending on how close to the goal you are.

The presence of a camera close to the shooter to aid in aiming the shooter turret with some awesome code ill guess.

The surprising lack of ability to floor load and as far as i can tell, floor score.

IMHO, this will be a very interesting robot to watch, and its interesting to see HOT playing stong to one suit when im used to them interacting with every game element in almost every way possible. Still gonna be a great robot
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Re: pic: 2006 HOTBOT

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I'll leave the details of the shooter mechanism to Jim or Pat, they'll be able to explain it better.

I don't know if there's any video, but I know there will be after Great Lakes.

Greg, are you referring to lobbing from the ramp on the other side of the field?

We do not pick up from the floor, only receive from the human player.
I meant lobbing them into your own goal from your ramp not across the field
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Re: pic: 2006 HOTBOT


Ok, here comes the explanations.
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Question and request, how does your shooter work and it would be nice to have a video of the hotbot.
The shooter has two wheels that launch the ball up the arch and out of the robot. The arch puts a nice backspin on the ball increasing it's distance a little bit.
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Here's my guess,

The shooters wheels shoot the ball initially faster than the 12m/s... however due to gravity and whatnot that the intertial force of the ball coming out of the cannon keeps it against the chute. And as it slowly stats to lose momentum after breaching the top of the chute, it slows down to the maximum speed alotted by FIRST. This is the only way it works, that I can see anyway. I assume your just lobbing them from the ramp?
You are quite correct about the shooter's speed.
We can shoot from at least half court into the center goal. (we haven't measued the exit velocity yet, so that could change in either direction)
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But the netting baffles me, does it close or opens up?
In the picture, the netting is almost all the way in the closed position. It opens forward to increase the target area for the human player and to increase hopper capacity.
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Re: pic: 2006 HOTBOT

Great job guys and as always a diffrent aproach on how to play the game. See ya at Champs.
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Re: pic: 2006 HOTBOT

After looking at this picture for some time now I have come to a conclusion.

It just doesn't feel like a HOTBOT...

But that doesn't mean it won't rock, as a matter of fact i know it will (i have a sixth sense for good robots )
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Re: pic: 2006 HOTBOT

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After looking at this picture for some time now I have come to a conclusion.

It just doesn't feel like a HOTBOT...

But that doesn't mean it won't rock, as a matter of fact i know it will (i have a sixth sense for good robots )
Keep in mind that it's missing all of the cosmetic touches of the HOTBOT in this picture. (Flames and everything)
But due to the size and orientation restrictions we do feel that it's missing a bit of our signature look, but it will still 'Rock The Casbah' performance-wise.
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Re: pic: 2006 HOTBOT

I've noticed one thing with the shooter design that I would think could be an extremely major issue. By having that ball travelling on that arc which is a passive system for it's length of time, any impacts from other teams hitting the robot will greatly effect the accuracy of the shooter. Maybe I am wrong, but have you tested the way the balls will react in that scenario?
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