2006 Championship Divisions

[SizzelChest330]

Its kinda early...
Inspired by last years thread

Archimedes Curie Galileo Newton


1 4 9 11
16 20 22 25
27 33 38 40
45 47 48 49
59 60 65 66
67 69 70 71
74 79 85 86
87 88 93 108
111 118 120 121
122 125 126 128
135 148 151 155
159 166 168 173
174 175 176 179
180 190 191 192
195 201 203 204
207 211 217 223
224 226 228 231
233 234 236 237
247 254 269 279
292 295 302 304
308 312 322 326
330 337 340 341
343 345 346 348
357 358 359 365
371 375 378 386
395 397 401 405
406 418 435 440
444 447 461 462
468 469 476 486
494 499 503 519
525 527 540 546
555 563 573 585
610 614 618 647
650 662 665 686
714 716 752 768
803 809 815 816
830 836 842 846
862 868 869 888
896 900 922 928
945 967 971 973
980 989 999 1002
1023 1024 1033 1038
1057 1089 1102 1103
1114 1126 1138 1187
1188 1250 1251 1262
1272 1280 1289 1302
1323 1324 1350 1366
1367 1368 1379 1394
1402 1403 1422 1425
1446 1448 1450 1452
1481 1482 1492 1502
1503 1506 1507 1508
1511 1523 1538 1541
1549 1560 1563 1567
1592 1595 1604 1616
1617 1626 1646 1654
1675 1680

[Koko Ed]

Originally Posted by SizzelChest330

Its kinda early...
Inspired by last years thread

Archimedes Curie Galileo Newton

1 4 9 11
16 20 22 27
25 33 38 45
40 47 48 49
59 60 65 66
66 69 70 74
71 79 85 86
87 88 93 108
111 118 120 121
122 125 126 128
135 148 151 155
159 166 168 173
174 175 176 179
180 190 191 192
195 201 203 204
207 211 217 223
224 226 228 231
233 234 236 237
247 254 269 292
279 295 302 304
308 312 322 326
330 337 340 341
343 345 346 348
357 358 359 365
371 375 378 386
395 397 401 405
405 406 418 435
440 444 447 461
462 468 469 476
486 494 499 503
519 525 527 540
546 555 563 573
585 610 614 618
647 650 662 665
686 714 716 752
768 803 809 815
816 830 836 842
846 862 868 869
888 896 900 922
928 945 967 971
971 973 980 989
999 1002 1023 1024
1033 1038 1057 1089
1102 1103 1114 1126
1138 1187 1188 1250
1251 1262 1272 1280
1289 1302 1323 1324
1350 1366 1367 1368
1379 1394 1402 1403
1422 1425 1446 1448
1450 1452 1481 1482
1492 1502 1503 1506
1507 1508 1511 1523
1538 1541 1549 1560
1563 1567 1592 1595
1604 1616 1617 1626
1646 1654 1675 1680
1685

heh.
I actually was thinking of starting one on Friday.

[Corey Balint]

I really do hope they get creative this year and do some sort of randomization. Bracket teams together by years participating in FIRST, then assign an equal amount to each one of the four divisions. All random assignments though.
I really dont like that we are basically guaranteed to not participate against the likes of RUSH or BUZZ or 22 or 20.

[Tom Bottiglieri]

I'll raise my hand as the first to agree with Corey. We've only been to Nationals twice, but it seems we had a bunch of the same teams in our division each time. Maybe divisions could be arranged by a point system?

A regional participation gets you 1 point. Being one of the Top 8 teams is 2 points. Regional finalist is 3 points. Regional Winner is 5 points.

After all points are distributed, teams could be sorted the same way they are now, starting with the top ranked team and going down the list, assigned each team the next division. (In case of a tie in points, teams can be sorted by team number, or randomly.) This system would assure every division is fun to watch and compete in.

[Bharat Nain]

Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri

I'll raise my hand as the first to agree with Corey. We've only been to Atlanta twice, but it seems we had a bunch of the same teams in our division each time. Maybe divisions could be arranged by a point system?

A regional participation gets you 1 point. Being one of the Top 8 teams is 2 points. Regional finalist is 3 points. Regional Winner is 5 points.

After all points are distributed, teams could be sorted the same way they are now, starting with the top ranked team and going down the list, assigned each team the next division. (In case of a tie in points, teams can be sorted by team number, or randomly.) This system would assure every division is fun to watch and compete in.

Exactly what Shaun and I were thinking. We discussed this last season too. I think if a lot of us put out a word for this FIRST will respond because this idea makes sense.

[nuggetsyl]

Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri

I'll raise my hand as the first to agree with Corey. We've only been to Atlanta twice, but it seems we had a bunch of the same teams in our division each time. Maybe divisions could be arranged by a point system?

A regional participation gets you 1 point. Being one of the Top 8 teams is 2 points. Regional finalist is 3 points. Regional Winner is 5 points.

After all points are distributed, teams could be sorted the same way they are now, starting with the top ranked team and going down the list, assigned each team the next division. (In case of a tie in points, teams can be sorted by team number, or randomly.) This system would assure every division is fun to watch and compete in.

i agree 100% with you. I was just talking with a friend about something simlar to your idea. Your system is neater. My idea was to do it off one of your reagional rankings (seeding).

shaun

[Corey Balint]

Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri

I'll raise my hand as the first to agree with Corey. We've only been to Atlanta twice, but it seems we had a bunch of the same teams in our division each time. Maybe divisions could be arranged by a point system?

A regional participation gets you 1 point. Being one of the Top 8 teams is 2 points. Regional finalist is 3 points. Regional Winner is 5 points.

After all points are distributed, teams could be sorted the same way they are now, starting with the top ranked team and going down the list, assigned each team the next division. (In case of a tie in points, teams can be sorted by team number, or randomly.) This system would assure every division is fun to watch and compete in.

I love the idea Tom, but i doubt FIRST would do something as slightly complex as that is. They seem to like to take the simple ways. I also think alot of teams/individuals wouldn't agree with the ranking idea because sometimes teams get lucky or go to an easier regional or more regionals, and all sorts of things like that.

[Koko Ed]

Originally Posted by Corey Balint

I really do hope they get creative this year and do some sort of randomization. Bracket teams together by years participating in FIRST, then assign an equal amount to each one of the four divisions. All random assignments though.
I really dont like that we are basically guaranteed to not participate against the likes of RUSH or BUZZ or 22 or 20.

Hey we'll never be in a division with 190., 192 or 195.
FIRST aint changing it for nuthin'. It aint broke so they aint fixin' it.

[Corey Balint]

Originally Posted by Koko Ed

Hey we'll never be in a division with 190., 192 or 195.
FIRST aint changing it for nuthin'. It aint broke so they aint fixin' it.

It might not be broke, but it is very lame, and very dry.

[SizzelChest330]

I was hoping for a straight up Random drawling of divisions

Just completely randomly paired

[Corey Balint]

Id agree with you there, but you would get complaints saying that some divisions were walkovers, and some were impossible...basically, not enough parity.

[Karthik]

Corey,

How about these divisions...

1 20 9 11
4 59 22 49
16 122 38 74
25 125 70 86
27 148 120 87
33 166 151 128
40 174 168 155
45 201 203 159
47 211 207 192
48 224 228 204
60 226 247 223
65 295 302 231
66 337 308 304
67 345 340 326
69 375 346 341
71 397 359 348
79 405 378 365
85 406 401 371
88 440 418 386
93 444 447 405
108 468 462 435
111 486 499 461
118 519 527 476
121 525 546 540
126 555 563 573
135 610 614 585
173 647 662 618
175 650 716 665
176 714 768 686
179 803 809 752
180 830 836 815
190 846 868 816
191 862 926 842
195 945 967 869
217 1002 971 888
233 1033 1023 971
234 1038 1057 999
236 1103 1102 1024
237 1187 1138 1089
254 1289 1188 1126
269 1302 1323 1250
279 1366 1350 1324
292 1394 1367 1368
312 1422 1402 1379
322 1425 1446 1403
330 1452 1450 1448
343 1502 1481 1482
357 1507 1511 1492
358 1508 1538 1506
395 1541 1549 1523
469 1563 1592 1560
494 1567 1617 1595
503 1616 1675 1604
980 1654 1685 1626
1114 1262 1272 1280
1251 973 1646 989
1503 896 900 922
1680

[Koko Ed]

Originally Posted by Corey Balint

Id agree with you there, but you would get complaints saying that some divisions were walkovers, and some were impossible...basically, not enough parity.

Archie is looking pretty nasty as of right now.

[Tom Bottiglieri]

Originally Posted by Karthik

Corey,

How about these divisions...

The first division looks really boring. You would need to distribute more well known teams into it.

[Koko Ed]

Originally Posted by Karthik

Corey,

How about these divisions...

1 20 9 11
4 59 22 49
16 122 38 74
25 125 70 86
27 148 120 87
33 166 151 128
40 174 168 155
45 201 203 159
47 211 207 192
48 224 228 204
60 226 247 223
65 295 302 231
66 337 308 304
67 345 340 326
69 375 346 341
71 397 359 348
79 405 378 365
85 406 401 371
88 440 418 386
93 444 447 405
108 468 462 435
111 486 499 461
118 519 527 476
121 525 546 540
126 555 563 573
135 610 614 585
173 647 662 618
175 650 716 665
176 714 768 686
179 803 809 752
180 830 836 815
190 846 868 816
191 862 926 842
195 945 967 869
217 1002 971 888
233 1033 1023 971
234 1038 1057 999
236 1103 1102 1024
237 1187 1138 1089
254 1289 1188 1126
269 1302 1323 1250
279 1366 1350 1324
292 1394 1367 1368
312 1422 1402 1379
322 1425 1446 1403
330 1452 1450 1448
343 1502 1481 1482
357 1507 1511 1492
358 1508 1538 1506
395 1541 1549 1523
469 1563 1592 1560
494 1567 1617 1595
503 1616 1675 1604
980 1654 1685 1626
1114 1262 1272 1280
1251 973 1646 989
1503 896 900 922
1680

That first division (Archimedes?) looks greusome.
No way, Jose.
Needs to be more balanced than that.