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Re: 2006 Championship Divisions

I really do hope they get creative this year and do some sort of randomization. Bracket teams together by years participating in FIRST, then assign an equal amount to each one of the four divisions. All random assignments though.
I really dont like that we are basically guaranteed to not participate against the likes of RUSH or BUZZ or 22 or 20.
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Re: 2006 Championship Divisions

I'll raise my hand as the first to agree with Corey. We've only been to Nationals twice, but it seems we had a bunch of the same teams in our division each time. Maybe divisions could be arranged by a point system?

A regional participation gets you 1 point. Being one of the Top 8 teams is 2 points. Regional finalist is 3 points. Regional Winner is 5 points.

After all points are distributed, teams could be sorted the same way they are now, starting with the top ranked team and going down the list, assigned each team the next division. (In case of a tie in points, teams can be sorted by team number, or randomly.) This system would assure every division is fun to watch and compete in.

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Re: 2006 Championship Divisions

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I'll raise my hand as the first to agree with Corey. We've only been to Atlanta twice, but it seems we had a bunch of the same teams in our division each time. Maybe divisions could be arranged by a point system?

A regional participation gets you 1 point. Being one of the Top 8 teams is 2 points. Regional finalist is 3 points. Regional Winner is 5 points.

After all points are distributed, teams could be sorted the same way they are now, starting with the top ranked team and going down the list, assigned each team the next division. (In case of a tie in points, teams can be sorted by team number, or randomly.) This system would assure every division is fun to watch and compete in.
Exactly what Shaun and I were thinking. We discussed this last season too. I think if a lot of us put out a word for this FIRST will respond because this idea makes sense.
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Re: 2006 Championship Divisions

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I'll raise my hand as the first to agree with Corey. We've only been to Atlanta twice, but it seems we had a bunch of the same teams in our division each time. Maybe divisions could be arranged by a point system?

A regional participation gets you 1 point. Being one of the Top 8 teams is 2 points. Regional finalist is 3 points. Regional Winner is 5 points.

After all points are distributed, teams could be sorted the same way they are now, starting with the top ranked team and going down the list, assigned each team the next division. (In case of a tie in points, teams can be sorted by team number, or randomly.) This system would assure every division is fun to watch and compete in.
i agree 100% with you. I was just talking with a friend about something simlar to your idea. Your system is neater. My idea was to do it off one of your reagional rankings (seeding).

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Re: 2006 Championship Divisions

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I'll raise my hand as the first to agree with Corey. We've only been to Atlanta twice, but it seems we had a bunch of the same teams in our division each time. Maybe divisions could be arranged by a point system?

A regional participation gets you 1 point. Being one of the Top 8 teams is 2 points. Regional finalist is 3 points. Regional Winner is 5 points.

After all points are distributed, teams could be sorted the same way they are now, starting with the top ranked team and going down the list, assigned each team the next division. (In case of a tie in points, teams can be sorted by team number, or randomly.) This system would assure every division is fun to watch and compete in.
I love the idea Tom, but i doubt FIRST would do something as slightly complex as that is. They seem to like to take the simple ways. I also think alot of teams/individuals wouldn't agree with the ranking idea because sometimes teams get lucky or go to an easier regional or more regionals, and all sorts of things like that.
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Re: 2006 Championship Divisions

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I really do hope they get creative this year and do some sort of randomization. Bracket teams together by years participating in FIRST, then assign an equal amount to each one of the four divisions. All random assignments though.
I really dont like that we are basically guaranteed to not participate against the likes of RUSH or BUZZ or 22 or 20.
Hey we'll never be in a division with 190., 192 or 195.
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Re: 2006 Championship Divisions

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Hey we'll never be in a division with 190., 192 or 195.
FIRST aint changing it for nuthin'. It aint broke so they aint fixin' it.
It might not be broke, but it is very lame, and very dry.
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Re: 2006 Championship Divisions

I was hoping for a straight up Random drawling of divisions

Just completely randomly paired
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Re: 2006 Championship Divisions

Id agree with you there, but you would get complaints saying that some divisions were walkovers, and some were impossible...basically, not enough parity.
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Re: 2006 Championship Divisions

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Id agree with you there, but you would get complaints saying that some divisions were walkovers, and some were impossible...basically, not enough parity.
Archie is looking pretty nasty as of right now.
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Re: 2006 Championship Divisions

As long as you've left out 492, your list is wrong.
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Re: 2006 Championship Divisions

I just looked at the list of registered teams for the event. How do you check which division you're in? or did you just take them in numerical order and sort them?
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Re: 2006 Championship Divisions

Divisions aren't officially released till the week before Atlanta. But this sorting is the way that it has been done for the past couple years.
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Re: 2006 Championship Divisions

Yeah...in the revision archemedes is absolutely stacked...the original divisions were pretty even, but i'd give the toughest nod to newton...i hope they randomize it, but I know they won't
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