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Unread 26-02-2006, 20:58
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a bunch of ball II

Do you think people are being untruthful when they claim that their bot can pick up anywhere from 6-25 balls?
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Unread 26-02-2006, 21:03
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Re: a bunch of ball II

Why would they have any reason to lie? Everyone will be able to see what they can do at their first competition, so whats the point of making everyone believe they can do more than they really can for a few weeks.


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Re: a bunch of ball II

Be careful when voting on this poll. His post asks people "yes/no" if they are being untruthful, yet his actualy poll question asks if they are "yes/no" truthful.
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Re: a bunch of ball II

This whole discussion could be avoided if the teams making the claims would post some pictures.

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"
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Re: a bunch of ball II

GEEZ PEOPLE, READ THE DISCLAIMER...LOL

I'm well known for mistakes.............I'm gonna add something to it
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Re: a bunch of ball II

I think that people are being truthful because I have seen pics of robots that met their claims
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Re: a bunch of ball II

After spending 6 weeks of nonstop work on the robots. Its like your baby and it can do no wrong. That is why i like video proof of what robots can do. Even then you have to make sure what you are seeing is what you are getting.


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Re: a bunch of ball II

I think people think they're being truthful...but the reality will hit a bunch of people at the competitions. Imperfect conditions means imperfect results.
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Re: a bunch of ball II

i don't think they lie possibly they are mistaken but my question is why lie what purpose would it serve?
and by pick up do you mean from the ground at one pass? or do you mean storage either way... our robot picked up all 7 practice balls we have with our system but if you mean storage our robot could easily store that many the 7 balls we have don't come close to filling the space and through my estimate I would say 25 balls would fit easy.
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Re: a bunch of ball II

From going to a few regionals last year and helping with the scouting, I can tell you that people do exaggerate greatly. Usually it's because they designed it to do what they tell you it can do, but in practice it is much, much less.
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Re: a bunch of ball II

I think there is a yes and no answer, if they post that they can pick up so many balls or such I dont believe they are lieing however those are under ideal practice conditions most likely, It could be a very differnet story once you get on the field with other machines and lots more action going on so in short they probably do have the capablities under ideal conditions but at competition it may be different
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Re: a bunch of ball II

Hmm, well, our robot can fit up to 30ish balls. Are we ever gonna have that many in any given time? I certainly hope not, since it means we're probably doing a crappy job at scoring....
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Re: a bunch of ball II

Everybody's robot look unbeatable running around the shop.
No one is going to know what thier robot is really capable of til practice day of their first regional.
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Re: a bunch of ball II

Darn it.. You tricked me. I think people are being truthful when they make statements about how many balls they can pick up. Only time will tell though, I guess.
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Re: a bunch of ball II

I feel that nobody is going to tell you they can hold balls if they can't. Teams are (almost) always honest on CD, maybe a little less so in the pits when scouting. But it doesnt matter what they say, since every team should have scouts that watch what robots actually do on the field.
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