2006 Championship Divisions

[Nuttyman54]

I just looked at the list of registered teams for the event. How do you check which division you're in? or did you just take them in numerical order and sort them?

[Ricky Q.]

Divisions aren't officially released till the week before Atlanta. But this sorting is the way that it has been done for the past couple years.

[George A.]

Yeah...in the revision archemedes is absolutely stacked...the original divisions were pretty even, but i'd give the toughest nod to newton...i hope they randomize it, but I know they won't

[GaryVoshol]

What if they randomize it within each block of 100 team numbers? Put teams 1-100 in a "box" and "draw" them out. Then do the same for 101-200, 201-300, etc. It could easily be computerized.

[Conor Ryan]

archmeides was stacked, the division championships would be tougher than Einstein.

What if it worked out like
A C G N
1 9 16 22
4 11 20 25
27 38 45 48
33 40 47 49
59 65 67 70
60 66 69 71
74 85 87 93
79 86 88 108
ect. ect.

Basically 2 teams go to Archimedes, then 2 to Curie, then 2 to Galileo and then 2 to Newton. This way you'd get to see some teams that are side by side without completely stacking the competition like Karthik. (notice how he had all the Niagra FIRST teams in the same division)

[Heretic121]

someone please tell me who its so hard to pull 1-4 out of a hat for each team and set a limit for x amount of teams per division??? how long would it take to write a VB or java program that did that??? an hour or two!?!?

GET UN LAZY FIRST!!! =D

* i mean hell ill make the app!!! *

[Rick TYler]

Originally Posted by Heretic121

someone please tell me who its so hard to pull 1-4 out of a hat for each team and set a limit for x amount of teams per division??? how long would it take to write a VB or java program that did that??? an hour or two!?!?

GET UN LAZY FIRST!!! =D

* i mean hell ill make the app!!! *

Ummm, why? What makes that better than the current method? No need to overcomplicate a simple problem -- and this method guarantees an even mix of older and younger teams in each division.

[Heretic121]

Originally Posted by Rick TYler

Ummm, why? What makes that better than the current method? No need to overcomplicate a simple problem -- and this method guarantees an even mix of older and younger teams in each division.

well so would the new way really *not over complicate things*... it would also allow teams 121 to face teams like 122 and 125 in nationals... and teams like 25 to face 27 and 33...

honestly its you make a program that says give # 1 2 3 4 --> XXX teams that are competeting in nationals an a b c or d in random order and once this many # of a's hits xx then stop giving out that letter... not hard... not random... and it would work for endless seasons to come since its randomly generated just like thier match lists... =D... easy...

so yes it would be meaningful and no it wouldnt over complicate things...

i think i answered everything =D

[Koko Ed]

Originally Posted by Heretic121

well so would the new way really *not over complicate things*... it would also allow teams 121 to face teams like 122 and 125 in nationals... and teams like 25 to face 27 and 33...

honestly its you make a program that says give # 1 2 3 4 --> XXX teams that are competeting in nationals an a b c or d in random order and once this many # of a's hits xx then stop giving out that letter... not hard... not random... and it would work for endless seasons to come since its randomly generated just like thier match lists... =D... easy...

so yes it would be meaningful and no it wouldnt over complicate things...

i think i answered everything =D

Like FIRST is really concerned about things like that.
All they care about is getting the divisions out not appeasing the whims of some teams to work with other teams ( if it's really that big a deal dig deep in your pockets and go get in whatever regional they're in). FIRST has no reason to change the system so they won't. It's not even worth argueing about.

[nuggetsyl]

hey at least this way you can kinda scout nationals

shaun

[Freddy Schurr]

Archimedes Curie Galileo Newton


A C G N
1 4 9 11
16 20 22 25
27 33 38 40
45 47 48 49
59 60 65 66
67 69 70 71
74 75 79 85
86 87 88 93
100 108 111 118
120 121 122 125
126 128 133 135
138 148 151 155
159 166 168 173
174 175 176 177
179 180 190 191
192 195 201 203
204 207 211 217
223 224 226 228
229 231 233 234
236 237 247 254
269 279 292 295
302 304 308 312
322 326 330 337
340 341 343 346
348 357 358 359
365 371 375 378
384 386 395 397
401 405 406 418
435 440 444 447
461 462 468 469
476 486 492 494
499 503 519 525
527 540 546 547
555 563 573 585
610 614 618 647
650 662 665 686
714 716 752 753
768 803 809 815
816 830 836 842
846 862 868 869
888 896 900 922
928 945 967 971
973 980 999 1002
1014 1023 1024 1033
1038 1057 1089 1102
1103 1114 1124 1126
1138 1187 1188 1250
1251 1262 1272 1276
1279 1280 1289 1302
1323 1324 1350 1366
1367 1368 1379 1390
1394 1402 1403 1422
1425 1446 1448 1450
1452 1481 1482 1492
1502 1503 1506 1507
1508 1511 1519 1523
1538 1539 1541 1547
1549 1560 1563 1567
1592 1595 1598 1604
1610 1616 1617 1626
1646 1649 1654 1675
1680 1685 1718 1723
1743 1778 1807 1885

[Peter Matteson]

Originally Posted by Rick TYler

Ummm, why? What makes that better than the current method? No need to overcomplicate a simple problem -- and this method guarantees an even mix of older and younger teams in each division.

I don't like the fact our team will never be in the same division as 174, 175, 176, 178, 179, 180 no matter what happens. These are the other UTC sponsored teams and I would like to actually have the opportunity to be located in a close pit to them and compete with/against them. We always have 173 (Rage another UTC team) next to us but I'd be willing to give that up for some variety. Particularly 179 and 180 who are down in Florida and we never get to see up here in NE. Theoretically, right now we can only conceivably ever play each other in Einstien!

[Jon K.]

I still want them to bring back the 02 style of the 5 team chunks. It allowed me to find out about other teams plus with this format you do end up with the same teams year after year.

[Koko Ed]

Here is the listing before week 4 regionals begin.
272 teams:

1 4 9 11
16 20 22 25
27 38 40 45
47 48 49 59
60 65 66 67
69 70 71 74
75 79 85 86
87 88 93 100
108 111 118 120
121 122 125 126
128 133 135 138
148 151 155 159
166 168 173 174
175 176 177 179
180 184 190 191
192 195 201 203
204 207 211 217
223 224 226 228
229 231 233 234
236 237 247 254
269 279 280 292
295 302 304 308
312 322 326 330
337 340 341 343
346 348 357 358
359 365 371 375
378 384 386 395
401 405 406 418
435 440 444 447
462 468 469 476
486 488 492 494
499 503 519 525
527 540 546 547
555 563 573 581
585 610 612 614
618 647 650 662
665 686 714 716
752 753 766 768
803 809 815 816
830 836 842 846
862 868 869 888
896 900 922 928
945 967 971 973
980 989 999 1002
1014 1023 1024 1033
1038 1057 1089 1102
1103 1114 1124 1126
1138 1187 1188 1241
1250 1251 1262 1272
1276 1279 1280 1289
1302 1323 1324 1350
1366 1367 1368 1379
1390 1394 1402 1403
1414 1422 1425 1448
1450 1452 1481 1492
1502 1503 1506 1507
1508 1511 1519 1523
1538 1539 1541 1547
1549 1560 1563 1567
1592 1595 1598 1604
1610 1616 1617 1626
1629 1646 1649 1654
1675 1680 1685 1700
1714 1718 1719 1723
1727 1743 1746 1756
1778 1807 1810 1868
1885 1887 1922 1941

[Travis Hoffman]

Originally Posted by Koko Ed

Here is the listing before week 4 regionals begin.
272 teams:

1 4 9 11
16 20 22 25
27 38 40 45
47 48 49 59
60 65 66 67
69 70 71 74
75 79 85 86
87 88 93 100
108 111 118 120
121 122 125 126
128 133 135 138
148 151 155 159
166 168 173 174
175 176 177 179
180 184 190 191
192 195 201 203
204 207 211 217
223 224 226 228
229 231 233 234
236 237 247 254
269 279 280 292
295 302 304 308
312 322 326 330
337 340 341 343
346 348 357 358
359 365 371 375
378 384 386 395
401 405 406 418
435 440 444 447
462 468 469 476
486 488 492 494
499 503 519 525
527 540 546 547
555 563 573 581
585 610 612 614
618 647 650 662
665 686 714 716
752 753 766 768
803 809 815 816
830 836 842 846
862 868 869 888
896 900 922 928
945 967 971 973
980 989 999 1002
1014 1023 1024 1033
1038 1057 1089 1102
1103 1114 1124 1126
1138 1187 1188 1241
1250 1251 1262 1272
1276 1279 1280 1289
1302 1323 1324 1350
1366 1367 1368 1379
1390 1394 1402 1403
1414 1422 1425 1448
1450 1452 1481 1492
1502 1503 1506 1507
1508 1511 1519 1523
1538 1539 1541 1547
1549 1560 1563 1567
1592 1595 1598 1604
1610 1616 1617 1626
1629 1646 1649 1654
1675 1680 1685 1700
1714 1718 1719 1723
1727 1743 1746 1756
1778 1807 1810 1868
1885 1887 1922 1941

This one would be very interesting because a.) 1114, 1503, and 1680 (I wonder if they like being called the "Triplets"?) will all be in the same division, and b.) we'd be there with them.