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Re: pic: How 1251 shipped.

Don't worry guys...This isn't the end of it!!!
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Re: pic: How 1251 shipped.

*grabs drill* I'm sure I can help you guys take 40lbs of speedholes out.
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Re: pic: How 1251 shipped.

Adam, we lost the weight. Now we need to rework a few things. 1251 isn't giving up we feel that we will have a competitive bot ready to go for Friday's qualifying matches at UCF. Some things about the bot frame is 1/8in Ll bracket aluminum, two speed shifting gearbox with bike and CIM motors, and picks up balls off the ground. At any rate still a work in progress.

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Re: pic: How 1251 shipped.

If you are ok with the 10 point scoring uber defensive robot, awesome.
If you want to get back to your original design (which I happen to like, a lot):
Get rid of the double middle wheel set up, get out that drill ( you can literally save 10 pounds on that machine), and see if you can make your shooter a one wheel setup. I bet you could gain full robot functionality if you did that. Its just the time you have at the regional to do the work....


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Re: pic: How 1251 shipped.

This looks nice guys, I can tell you cut a lot away. I wanna see the whole thing! I agree with taking out one of the double wheels and dump the compressor if you can, get that shooter back on and you'll be rockin. Nice looking machine though guys. Lemme know if we can help you out any.
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Re: pic: How 1251 shipped.

I hope you dont think im trying to design your robot with this idea, but how about.

1) Dropping those facy transmissions for a KOP gearbox (they're really nice for a straight drivetrain)
2) since you wont need to shift gears anymore, drop that hefty little compressor.
3)Feel free to eliminate a wheel off the center if you can.
4)got freshmen? speedholes not included, but you can throw a thousand or so on there.
5) One wheeled shooters work just fine, ours has been doing great

IF you keep your robot how it is, best of luck (I personally love dumper bots), but i think a bigger, less beefy hopper might be in order if you arent shooting balls.

Just one (almost) freshman's perspective, and i hope your reconstruction goes well (my team rebuilt the robot at 2 regionals last year, and we ended up with a nice machine.)

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Re: pic: How 1251 shipped.

Is that size 35 chain I see? You could always swap everything not attached to the gearbox to 25, that'll save weight. Also, a ton of cheeseholing can be done. I'm sure you guys can get your shooter back on.

By the way, I love the color! Is that powdercoating i spy?
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Re: pic: How 1251 shipped.

Good luck guys. We have some work to do at UCF still as well. If nothing else, you'll be one heck of a defense bot... but I have a feeling you won't settle for anything less than what you originally dreamed.

By the way- don't forget to take that ball out of the system; lose a pound or so
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Re: pic: How 1251 shipped.

Are those custom plastic wheels? Did you machine them? They must have cost a fortune.

Anyway, why double wheels in the center?
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Re: pic: How 1251 shipped.

It's a great looking robot, and I agree that that is a great color... nice to see a little differential from silver aluminum... But as far as getting the weight off and getting it reassembled... Where there's a will, there's a way. We had somewhat of the same issue with shipping very overweight last year and this year we ran into the same problem... Just work hard, work fast, and you'll be allright.

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Re: pic: How 1251 shipped.

If I'm not running around like a chicken with my head cut off and you've got an extra drill at UCF, grab me. I'm sure that there are plenty of people that would love to help you work on getting the weight out've that structure to get it back to it's initial design. You guys have put together great work in the past, and like you said, it's just another lesson. I know that 108 went through it last year and they ended up getting their design functioning again. Either way, even without the shooter that's an excellent and very robust design.

In the end, I definitly understand how it feels even if you can't put the shooter on. That's what happened with us in week 4, except that we scrapped the shooter mostly due to not having any sort of machining capabilities. Our design came out and has the same things going for it as yours now, and the more I've thought about it since then, you really have a world of oppurtunities even without the shooter. That would just be a cherry on top. Great job guys, keep your heads up, because you're guaranteed to kick butt either way.
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P.S. Do you really need that compressor? If you're just using the air to run the shifting cylinders, you can scrap it. If you're using the AndyMarks like we are, you can get well over 100 shifts while staying above pressure.
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P.S. Do you really need that compressor? If you're just using the air to run the shifting cylinders, you can scrap it. If you're using the AndyMarks like we are, you can get well over 100 shifts while staying above pressure.
The brand of your transmission has absolutely nothing to do with the number of times you can shift it before your air runs out. Anyhow, what pressure are you shifting at? Last year, we shifted at about 45 PSI and got 12 shifts out of one tank. How can you get well over 100? You must have been shifting at a low pressure. We started at about 100 psi in the tank, took 12 shifts, and ended under just 45. But anyway, 12 shifts is shifting once every 10 seconds. So, if shifting is your only pneumatics, you can probably get by with one tank.
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