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Unread 07-03-2006, 16:34
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Re: Who should build the field?

Gina - Haha I agree, I was not the one who posted this answer, but my friend Anna who also represents 131 made that suggestion that God should build the field... it would make things easier don't you think haha?



Anna - you should basically become a stand up comic, ie: GOD is usually too busy anyway with ordering the missing parts in the KOP.

dang, yousa funny one.
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Re: Who should build the field?

I know on my team is a high priority but its also a big project for new kids. Usually a senior member of the team leads as many of the new kids in a massive field construction project. We really lack the space for a full size field but in spite of that, for the last few years have built full size field components. The result is that our lab is quickly filling up with large abstract wooden structures. The benefit to having the majority of the new kids build the field quickly is that they provide lots of manual labor and they can get comfortable handling power tools in a relaxed setting before working on precision critical robot pieces. While this might turn into a big argument often times distracting the new kids with this project also lets the more senior kids have enough peace from the rigors of leadership to sit down with the necessary people and flesh out a plan for the robot.

Lastly as other teams have mentioned the field pieces are extremely necessary for understanding how to play the game. As far too many teams are finding out this year, the ramps in front of the corner goals haven't turned out to be something you can ignore. They have caused countless teams so far trouble simply because teams didn't build the field piece.
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Re: Who should build the field?

Building the playing field was actually my role in the team for the first week(of course i worked with other kids). Then we finished and i went to programing. It was cool since we had a giant room to build it in and a woodshop in the next room, which had all the wood we would ever need.
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Re: Who should build the field?

In my opinion, the students should take charge of everything and then let the mentors help. But since that never happens in real nice, it would be nice to have parents build the field parts.
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Re: Who should build the field?

At our school, the construction class built the goals for us. Its just convenient for us to have the goals to practice with but not have to take time away from building the robot.
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Re: Who should build the field?

Since our team is the closest team to our remote kickoff a couple of our mentors and other mentors close by make one set of field parts that we get to keep.
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Re: Who should build the field?

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In my opinion, the students should take charge of everything and then let the mentors help. But since that never happens in real nice, it would be nice to have parents build the field parts.
We are a 4th year student team and every year the field has been done by week 1.

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Re: Who should build the field?

Teams I have worked with in St. Louis have always built practice fields. We started in 1996, with three mentors building the goal for Hexagon Havoc the night of our first team meeting. A few days later our main sponsor (my employer) delivered some carpet and lumber, and one of the mentors marshaled a squad of students to built the complete field in some unused plant space. The following year, mentors again built the goal for Toroid Terror and students built the complete field. That team (no permanent numbers back then; they were called the Arch Rivals) disbanded due to lack of teacher interest after the 1997 season.

Starting in 2002 (Zone Zeal) with the first St. Louis Regional, my employer again donated materials to build a practice field at Gateway HS. Team 931 has continued to build practice fields every year. From 2003 onward, we have had help from the St. Louis Regional organization; they contribute the main field elements (Stack Attack ramp, First Frenzy goals and bar, Triple Play goals and vision tetras, Aim High goals) and we build the practice field. We have opened the field to other teams who want to practice. Usually we have a day or two near the end of build season when several teams show up simultaneously. Once we had seven robots on the field together! We've never tried to hold scrimmages, but that seems like the logical next step.

For many teams, building a field is not practical due to expense and/or lack of space. We have been lucky to have a sponsor, a regional committee, and a host HS that combine to make a practice field possible.

So, assuming the resources are there, who should do the building? We have always used field building as a learning opportunity for new students, and we always have several mentors (and parents) who enjoy building things. Many of the builders have told me they prefer the satisfaction of completing a construction project to the protracted debate that inevitably accompanies our team's strategy and robot design activities.
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Re: Who should build the field?

Our woods class builds the field, it is a win win situation. They get to build something, while learning to follow blue prints, we get a field built.

We are lucky enough at my school to have both Metals and Woods as seperate classes.
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Re: Who should build the field?

The students build it. Being rookies almost none of us have used power tools a lot before. Very simple construction using wood works as good introduction to using tools and safety for us before we move onto building the robot.
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Re: Who should build the field?

Team 706 did not have time to build a field this year. To test our prototype ball launcher, we drew a 30" circle on a chalkboard. We assumed that we would be able to make it up the ramp with our grippy pneumatic tires and high COG. We were proved wrong at the scrimmage over at 537 on sunday before ship. We removed about 15 pounds off the top (we were 25 lbs over) and added bumpers, so we should be able to go up it now.
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