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Re: VCU DISQUALIFICATION!

Presumably, your bumpers wouldn't be ONLY in the section that could go into the goal. if you've got bumpers the entire front of the robot, then that becomes the effective front of the robot, and you can't extend in.
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Re: VCU DISQUALIFICATION!

hello all..

Its odd how they DQed us as our robot is'nt even designed to be able to go under the goal. Look at the robot in VCU pictures and you'll see why.
When we were told about the DQ were questioned it, but did'nt push the issue. So we lived with it. Luckly we won.

I was told that some robots if they hit the goal hard enough were making the camera think that they had passed into the goal...thats the only thing I can think of that might have caused our DQ.
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Re: DQ fo 1610 - Match 75 ???

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Yes, they were disqualified. They may have been ranked #1 if they had not been disqualified. Anyway, that disqualification didn't hurt them at all considering that they won the regional.

BTW anyone got video of this match....? I'd like to see it
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Re: DQ fo 1610 - Match 75 ???

http://www.soap.circuitrunners.com/2...vies/virginia/

Try finding the match on this website. Team 108 SOAP provided all the videos of the matches from VCU.

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Re: DQ fo 1610 - Match 75 ???

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Team 108 SOAP provided all the videos of the matches from VCU.
I'm not positive, but i think team 1002 is the host, being the CircuitRunners.
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Re: VCU DISQUALIFICATION!

I looked at the video of the match and 540 pushed us into the corner goal.
You can clearly see where the pushed us more than once into the goal.
I'm guessing the DQ came when we were pushed hard and part of our bumper
was forced under the goal. Clearly this was'nt our fault...but thats the way it happened.
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Re: VCU DISQUALIFICATION!

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On this note, if anyone has noticed a few extremely high scores posted in the results of the first week regionals. The one case that stands out to me is a score of 11109 at VCU, but if that were a typing error of a score of 109, there were also scores of aver 200, which I find hard to believe given the other scores we saw, even in the finals. I believe that the reason for these errant scores may be robot incursion into the corner goals. I believe that if a robot enters the goal, it will be counted as much more than a simple hand, and thus even a short infraction would greatly inflate scores. This would make FIRST's position on DQing any violators very reasonable, as it would be a major hassle to figure out the right score, and it may not be possible. Thus they are trying to make it as fair for everyone as possible, so that there is no dispute over scores. This is the most equitable process for dealing with this inherent shortcoming in the ball counting technology, and as they clearly published the penalties for goal infraction, it is by no means unfair to DQ any team found in violation of this, especially in light of the problems that it causes in scoring the matches.

If a robot enters the goal so far that the camera could see it, it was very obvious to the scoring system. And yes - a robot counted many more times than a hand. This was another reason for real-time scorekeepers at each goal: not just in case the cameras malfunctioned, but in case something entered the goal that shouldn't have been there.

The high scores at VCU were because of camera problems - we restarted the camera software and refocused the cameras and everything worked.
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