2006 Championship Divisions - Page 4

Peter Matteson · #46 16-03-2006, 08:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick TYler

Ummm, why? What makes that better than the current method? No need to overcomplicate a simple problem -- and this method guarantees an even mix of older and younger teams in each division.

I don't like the fact our team will never be in the same division as 174, 175, 176, 178, 179, 180 no matter what happens. These are the other UTC sponsored teams and I would like to actually have the opportunity to be located in a close pit to them and compete with/against them. We always have 173 (Rage another UTC team) next to us but I'd be willing to give that up for some variety. Particularly 179 and 180 who are down in Florida and we never get to see up here in NE. Theoretically, right now we can only conceivably ever play each other in Einstien!

Jon K. · #47 16-03-2006, 23:14

I still want them to bring back the 02 style of the 5 team chunks. It allowed me to find out about other teams plus with this format you do end up with the same teams year after year.

Freddy Schurr · #48 16-03-2006, 23:34

Archimedes Curie Galileo Newton

A C G N
1 4 9 11
16 20 22 25
27 33 38 40
45 47 48 49
59 60 65 66
67 69 70 71
74 75 79 85
86 87 88 93
100 108 111 118
120 121 122 125
126 128 133 135
138 148 151 155
159 166 168 173
174 175 176 177
179 180 190 191
192 195 201 203
204 207 211 217
223 224 226 228
229 231 233 234
236 237 247 254
269 279 292 295
302 304 308 312
322 326 330 337
340 341 343 346
348 357 358 359
365 371 375 378
384 386 395 397
401 405 406 418
435 440 444 447
461 462 468 469
476 486 492 494
499 503 519 525
527 540 546 547
555 563 573 585
610 614 618 647
650 662 665 686
714 716 752 753
768 803 809 815
816 830 836 842
846 862 868 869
888 896 900 922
928 945 967 971
973 980 999 1002
1014 1023 1024 1033
1038 1057 1089 1102
1103 1114 1124 1126
1138 1187 1188 1250
1251 1262 1272 1276
1279 1280 1289 1302
1323 1324 1350 1366
1367 1368 1379 1390
1394 1402 1403 1422
1425 1446 1448 1450
1452 1481 1482 1492
1502 1503 1506 1507
1508 1511 1519 1523
1538 1539 1541 1547
1549 1560 1563 1567
1592 1595 1598 1604
1610 1616 1617 1626
1646 1649 1654 1675
1680 1685 1718 1723
1743 1778 1807 1885

Nawaid Ladak · #49 18-03-2006, 23:41

that idea scares me.....

is this how they have done the divisions EVERY YEAR?

JJG13 · #50 19-03-2006, 07:15

This might involve a little work but...

How about ranking every team by the average amount of points they have scored each match they have played. In the case of a tie use something like number of wins or the flip of a coin to break the tie. Then the highest ranked team by this process goes to Archimedes, the second to Curie, the third to Galileo, the fourth to Newton, the fifth to Archimedes again, etc.

This ensures that each division is about equal (more equal than the current method), and ensures that a different assortment of teams are in each division, each year.

Allison K · #51 19-03-2006, 19:14

Is it just me or are the teams currently listed in a bit of a random order on the FIRST site?

http://www.usfirst.org/frc/map/index...list&event=CMP

A division sort from that list may fix the issue of teams never getting to see the three teams on either side of them. Though Murphy may see it as the perfect opporutunity - fixing one problem will cause three new ones.

~Allison

Koko Ed · #52 19-03-2006, 19:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allison K

Is it just me or are the teams currently listed in a bit of a random order on the FIRST site?

http://www.usfirst.org/frc/map/index...list&event=CMP

A division sort from that list may fix the issue of teams never getting to see the three teams on either side of them. Though Murphy may see it as the perfect opporutunity - fixing one problem will cause three new ones.

~Allison

I think this is the order teams signed up for the championship.
Here is how the order would look:

47 254 16 175
365 4 70 406
190 842 148 191
118 67 341 151
126 540 330 45
846 610 665 69
204 815 397 207
809 503 519 525
211 226 928 1124
971 166 1390 87
686 1302 348 1262
1452 9 862 1368
418 1448 1057 585
25 121 1038 33
816 494 74 1114
66 79 217 499
716 563 71 27
128 1 312 322
1350 233 555 340
292 469 180 358
1089 967 111 1002
195 155 173 1567
48 868 269 1188
85 302 527 1251
1503 830 1507 1511
337 159 573 1126
203 1549 1403 375
237 980 88 236
1502 546 343 174
1604 108 93 1560
49 234 1024 38
279 486 59 1538
1450 1541 65 435
1482 1272 1675 614
1280 1523 179 461
1446 100 768 378
304 228 395 1626
247 447 922 86
386 714 224 1033
476 192 135 20
1595 60 346 1680
1506 803 11 650
1250 231 176 1402
945 999 647 223
359 357 1508 900
1492 662 1654 618
888 836 22 1379
1023 1323 1138 1685
326 440 444 1592
168 122 973 401
1289 308 40 1481
371 1646 295 869
468 125 120 462
405 1102 1394 1425
201 1366 1324 1563
1617 752 896 1187
1367 1616 1422 138
1539 1014 1922 1279
1598 75 1610 384
753 1885 492 1547
1778 1276 1519 133
1807 1714 1718 547
1743 1723 1727 177
229 989

BandChick · #53 19-03-2006, 20:46

Now, THAT, is pretty random! Why wouldn't that work?

SizzelChest330 · #54 19-03-2006, 22:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by BandChick

Now, THAT, is pretty random! Why wouldn't that work?

Because Curie (3rd division) would kill

Koko Ed · #55 22-03-2006, 17:56

Here is the listing before week 4 regionals begin.
272 teams:

1 4 9 11
16 20 22 25
27 38 40 45
47 48 49 59
60 65 66 67
69 70 71 74
75 79 85 86
87 88 93 100
108 111 118 120
121 122 125 126
128 133 135 138
148 151 155 159
166 168 173 174
175 176 177 179
180 184 190 191
192 195 201 203
204 207 211 217
223 224 226 228
229 231 233 234
236 237 247 254
269 279 280 292
295 302 304 308
312 322 326 330
337 340 341 343
346 348 357 358
359 365 371 375
378 384 386 395
401 405 406 418
435 440 444 447
462 468 469 476
486 488 492 494
499 503 519 525
527 540 546 547
555 563 573 581
585 610 612 614
618 647 650 662
665 686 714 716
752 753 766 768
803 809 815 816
830 836 842 846
862 868 869 888
896 900 922 928
945 967 971 973
980 989 999 1002
1014 1023 1024 1033
1038 1057 1089 1102
1103 1114 1124 1126
1138 1187 1188 1241
1250 1251 1262 1272
1276 1279 1280 1289
1302 1323 1324 1350
1366 1367 1368 1379
1390 1394 1402 1403
1414 1422 1425 1448
1450 1452 1481 1492
1502 1503 1506 1507
1508 1511 1519 1523
1538 1539 1541 1547
1549 1560 1563 1567
1592 1595 1598 1604
1610 1616 1617 1626
1629 1646 1649 1654
1675 1680 1685 1700
1714 1718 1719 1723
1727 1743 1746 1756
1778 1807 1810 1868
1885 1887 1922 1941

BobC · #56 23-03-2006, 06:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri

The first division looks really boring. You would need to distribute more well known teams into it.

What are well known teams??

DjAlamose · #57 23-03-2006, 07:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobC

What are well known teams??

In my opinion, if you can recite their name and number then describe their robots from other years, then they are a well known team.

But aside from that, I really don't mind how FIRST does the selections for divisions. I have never really seen a need for splitting up the divisions further and doing more complicated selections. But as someone said above, they could just do it as when teams sign up.

Travis Hoffman · #58 23-03-2006, 08:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed

Here is the listing before week 4 regionals begin.
272 teams:

1 4 9 11
16 20 22 25
27 38 40 45
47 48 49 59
60 65 66 67
69 70 71 74
75 79 85 86
87 88 93 100
108 111 118 120
121 122 125 126
128 133 135 138
148 151 155 159
166 168 173 174
175 176 177 179
180 184 190 191
192 195 201 203
204 207 211 217
223 224 226 228
229 231 233 234
236 237 247 254
269 279 280 292
295 302 304 308
312 322 326 330
337 340 341 343
346 348 357 358
359 365 371 375
378 384 386 395
401 405 406 418
435 440 444 447
462 468 469 476
486 488 492 494
499 503 519 525
527 540 546 547
555 563 573 581
585 610 612 614
618 647 650 662
665 686 714 716
752 753 766 768
803 809 815 816
830 836 842 846
862 868 869 888
896 900 922 928
945 967 971 973
980 989 999 1002
1014 1023 1024 1033
1038 1057 1089 1102
1103 1114 1124 1126
1138 1187 1188 1241
1250 1251 1262 1272
1276 1279 1280 1289
1302 1323 1324 1350
1366 1367 1368 1379
1390 1394 1402 1403
1414 1422 1425 1448
1450 1452 1481 1492
1502 1503 1506 1507
1508 1511 1519 1523
1538 1539 1541 1547
1549 1560 1563 1567
1592 1595 1598 1604
1610 1616 1617 1626
1629 1646 1649 1654
1675 1680 1685 1700
1714 1718 1719 1723
1727 1743 1746 1756
1778 1807 1810 1868
1885 1887 1922 1941

This one would be very interesting because a.) 1114, 1503, and 1680 (I wonder if they like being called the "Triplets"?) will all be in the same division, and b.) we'd be there with them.

Peter Matteson · #59 23-03-2006, 09:00

I like the current split because it puts us in Galileo. We like Galileo. See 2001 and 2004 if you don't understand.

AmyPrib · #60 23-03-2006, 11:16

What do you think about having 6 divisions (including einstein)?

I have an inkling.

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