Who are the better shooters?

[thatphotochick]

at pittsburgh, 365 was amazing while shooting, they would be able to shoot from the platform and nobody could stop them. other good ones were 1249, 888, 808, 128, and 1690 (i think that's their number..they were against us in the finals)
at BMR, 1501, 85, 135, 292, and 461 were great shooters. 135 could make 10 of their balls in auton..i think they did a couple of times if i'm not mistaken.
my team, 1038, worked all the 6 weeks to get our shooter working. we barely spent any other time with anything else. i'm not exactly sure what happened with our camera, but it was taken off in pittsburgh cause we never used it, and continue not to.

[Cory]

Originally Posted by Jherbie53

Low center of gravity is a must for shooting from the ramp. Which is what all the robots have that shoot there. As for at the championship for them, if they get picked or pick two other good shooters, then its going to leave one open robot during there offense period. But when you think about it, all the alliances at Einstein will be offense minded like last year.

I'd put money on the fact that the top two alliances at nationals will have a very strong defender who can also score--a la 494 in 2004.

[Jherbie53]

Originally Posted by Cory

I'd put money on the fact that the top two alliances at nationals will have a very strong defender who can also score--a la 494 in 2004.

I didn't say there would be no one on defense, its just going to be a good defensive robot that can score as well or vise versa.

[Peter Matteson]

Originally Posted by Jherbie53

Low center of gravity is a must for shooting from the ramp. Which is what all the robots have that shoot there. As for at the championship for them, if they get picked or pick two other good shooters, then its going to leave one open robot during there offense period. But when you think about it, all the alliances at Einstein will be offense minded like last year.

I have to disagree with the all offensive alliance like last year comment. Last year if you sneezed wrong you were penalized so playing any kind of defense was very difficult. That promoted the offensive alliances. This year if you don't have three robots that can score and defend, remember you have a DEFENSIVE PERIOD, you don't have a chance. I think the people with a shooter only mentality have really think about ALL aspects of the game. You can't only be good at one thing in this game and win when you play a team that has balance and strategy.

[Schneidie]

I strongly agree with DZDConfusd, as in any sport, a player, (in this case a robot) needs to be able to defend against another scoring player. Imagine football without a defensive line or hockey without defensemen, the game would be boring.

[Jherbie53]

Originally Posted by Dzdconfusd

I have to disagree with the all offensive alliance like last year comment. Last year if you sneezed wrong you were penalized so playing any kind of defense was very difficult. That promoted the offensive alliances. This year if you don't have three robots that can score and defend, remember you have a DEFENSIVE PERIOD, you don't have a chance. I think the people with a shooter only mentality have really think about ALL aspects of the game. You can't only be good at one thing in this game and win when you play a team that has balance and strategy.

Originally Posted by Schneidie

I strongly agree with DZDConfusd, as in any sport, a player, (in this case a robot) needs to be able to defend against another scoring player. Imagine football without a defensive line or hockey without defensemen, the game would be boring.

I'm not saying that JUST offensive robots are going to be there. I'm saying that they will be MOSTLY offensive and can play DEFENSE. Because if you can't play defense, then why try and win autonomous? Win autonomous, play DEFENSE and load yourself, then go score and reload again. This was what 135 did at Boilermaker. But they also didn't use there autonomous mode sometimes, and shot there 10 balls without much blocking. Anyhoo I'm just rambling on, and need to go do something more productive.

[josh s]

Originally Posted by Jherbie53

I'm just wondering how good was 494 at Buckeye? and teams 74,107, and 141, when they competed. All of these teams are around me.

494 won buckeye and defeated 141, 461 (alliance captain), and us (1018). They have a strong auto mode like 1024 where they shoot with the camera They are a strong bot in all aspects like they always are.

[Dusty]

So far the best shooter that I have seen is 1126 from FLR, they could pretty much shoot from anywhere with in the offensive zone. With ths they were also very fast and accurate. At times thwey would have up to 5 balls in the air at a time. And did I mention that by the finals they were sinking 10 balls in autonomous. From what I havve just seen in Waterloo, I would say that the Triplets are next, although they are very good, they are not quite as fast or as accurate as 1126.

[Jherbie53]

Originally Posted by Dusty

So far the best shooter that I have seen is 1126 from FLR, they could pretty much shoot from anywhere with in the offensive zone. With ths they were also very fast and accurate. At times thwey would have up to 5 balls in the air at a time. And did I mention that by the finals they were sinking 10 balls in autonomous. From what I havve just seen in Waterloo, I would say that the Triplets are next, although they are very good, they are not quite as fast or as accurate as 1126.

I sooooo wish I could of seen more matches of the "Triplets", but I only got to see the first round elimination between the 1st and 8th seed at Great Lakes through the web cast. They did look awesome from what very littel I saw.

[DRH2o]

1610 and 343 were great at VCU and when we defended for them ... well you know !!

[DRH2o]

oops, I forgot to add 222, 435, & 384 could wear you out if they got a chance !!!

[E. Wood]

Originally Posted by thatphotochick

at pittsburgh, 365 was amazing while shooting, they would be able to shoot from the platform and nobody could stop them. other good ones were 1249, 888, 808, 128, and 1690 (i think that's their number..they were against us in the finals)

I think the team 1690 you are talking about is really my team 1629 (since there was no 1690 at pittsburg lol). But its cool, im not very good with team numbers eighter (and i always get yelled at for it). Our shooter has since improved with a change to our drive train (our bot is faster now). We also didnt have it it set exactly right at Pittsburg but at Chesapeake it was (Thanks to the pit crew). We are actually going to improve it some more for Championships by adding a a dial on our control bored that allows us to control the speed of the shooter motors letting us shoot from lots of different positions.
Here's my list of great shooters that i saw (numbers may not be correct)

56
103
293 (Spike)
175 (Buzz) -Great auto-mode
888
365 - if they are on the ramp
399 - two shooters is pretty cool
1727 - really good for a rookie in my opinon

(and some more i cant remeber the numbers of)

[Sgraff_SRHS06]

Originally Posted by E. Wood

I think the team 1690 you are talking about is really my team 1629 (since there was no 1690 at pittsburg lol). But its cool, im not very good with team numbers eighter (and i always get yelled at for it). Our shooter has since improved with a change to our drive train (our bot is faster now). We also didnt have it it set exactly right at Pittsburg but at Chesapeake it was (Thanks to the pit crew). We are actually going to improve it some more for Championships by adding a a dial on our control bored that allows us to control the speed of the shooter motors letting us shoot from lots of different positions.
Here's my list of great shooters that i saw (numbers may not be correct)

56
103
397 (Spike)
175 (Buzz) -Great auto-mode
888
365 - if they are on the ramp
399 - two shooters is pretty cool
1727 - really good for a rookie in my opinon

(and some more i cant remeber the numbers of)

FYI: Spike was 293

Btw, congrats on the Radio-Shack Innovationin in Control Award. As for ramp-shooters, 339 was especially good. As soon as it had a couple seconds-breathing room, it was plopping ball after ball into the center goal.

To add to that list:

181 - loved the spinning action on that shooter and some of the auto modes pulled off
341 - the auto-aim on their shooter was excellent
624 - great autonomous programs
1218 - consistent 4-6 ball shooter, sometimes up to 10 balls

[thatphotochick]

lol i swear i messed up 1629 since pittsburgh..i don't even know why...sorry lol

[ScoutingNerd175]

BAE
1519- good auto and good shooting during matches
296- ditto
138- great auto but not enough traction to avoid pushing (God, I loved that robot though)
1276- as soon as they got to the ramp they were great
1100

UTC
126- great shooter
20- I was sitting with them on Saturday, good turret action and generally strong robot
177
176- Better here than at BAE, good all around robot, but shooting is good when they get a free spot (and sometimes when they don't)
237- good turret but defended too much to shoot as well as they could

Chesapeake
1629- good all around machine, good auto, good shooter
399
339- any time they could get to the top of the ramp they were great
888- one of the best shooters during the match
237- again great but heavily defended
293- that robot was slightly scary, great auto
103- good shooter, very interesting design (our engineers were always talking about it) they had some trouble here (I believe they had some breakage)
341- these guys would have been our first pick of the teams lower than us in seeding. Great auto, great shooting during match.
836- very nice robot, again better here than BAE.
1389
56
(Can you tell I have my scouting stuff from that one)