2006 SBPLI Long Island Regional

[Spindash54]

We saw that Hauppauge's robot had passed through the bottom goal during Match 4 by more than 3 inches.

<G21> ROBOT Incursion into the Corner Goal – Robots should not enter the corner goals. Incidental incursion into the corner goal that occurs as a result of a ROBOT pushing balls into the goal is permitted, not to exceed a distance of approximately 3 inches. The 3 inches does not include the deflection of the goal panel or structure. Intentional incursion, for example to use a ball gathering mechanism to drop off balls inside the goal, or extending a portion of the ROBOT through the goal opening to activate the ball counting system, will result in disqualification of the offending ROBOT. Any incursion substantially beyond 3 inches, particularly if the robot extends over the lighted scoring system panel, will beconsidered intentional incursion.

And I appologize if I'm incorrect about any of this as I was on the sidelines injured, but I beleive that during the finals an incursion such as this is disqualification for either the alliance or just the one robot. Again, I'm sorry if I'm trying to be nasty about this. We give all our support to Hauppauge and the other Red Alliance teams, but this is just one little quirk that could've been said, but didn't. Regardless, congrats to the entire Red alliance for their victory.

[Madison]

Originally Posted by Spindash54

We saw that Hauppauge's robot had passed through the bottom goal during Match 4 by more than 3 inches.

Irrespective of what you saw, your team is no position to disqualify another alliance. I guess I just misunderstood your intent to point out the potential rule infraction to the referees who would then, y'know, do their job.

[Spindash54]

Originally Posted by M. Krass

Irrespective of what you saw, your team is no position to disqualify another alliance. I guess I just misunderstood your intent to point out the potential rule infraction to the referees who would then, y'know, do their job.

S'alright. I'm probably missing some piece of this puzzle since I was injured, but yeah, we did try to bring this to the refferees' attention to have something done, but at that point the Autonomous problem was all that they were focusing on, which led to Match 5.

[Brian C]

I believe that Greg was actually trying to allude to the goal incursion issue. I know (from personal experience with him) that he realizes that a team cannot call a DQ on their opponents. Any and all penalties given are done by the referees and the ref's at the SBPLI regional did quite a good job. There were a minimum of issues with the officiating. I feel that they did a good job despite being put in some tenous positions as a result of circumstances.

The main problems revolved around the field, scoring and seeding programs throughout the weekend. There were endless issues with qualifying match scheduling, lack of (read NO) seeding information until, literally 5 min before alliance selection and more "re-do's" than I have ever seen at any regional. Not to mention the fact that the top 8 seeds had to be "adjusted" after alliance selections had begun because a qualifying match had not been included in the original scoring tally and a team that should have been in the top 8 had been left out. Thankfully it did not affect the teams that had already selected but it did cause quite a bit of confusion at the event as virtually everyone including the selecting alliances were unaware of what was happening.

That being said......

Greg's team had a tremendous day establishing a new high water mark for the 1468 J-Birds and I know he's a trifle bit dissapointed at not winning a regional. However being a regional finalist is something to be content with for now as well as an incentive to bring your team's involvement and dedication up to the next level for the future.

The alliance of team 358, 271 & 870 did very, very well and they definitely knew that their opposing alliance of 1468, 353, 329 was there making them earn it all the way.

While I am not personally familiar with the folks on 870 I do know that they are unique in this locale for the community support they have been able to cultivate. I can tell you that Scott and Marc on 358 are excellent mentors and 358 should be proud that they have these folks in their corner. Team 271 and the "Bad Boyz" from Bay Shore also have excellent support from their mentors and community along with good teachers like Mr. Cavanaugh.

Oh and Greg **cough, cough** Hauppauge (team 358) could not have possibly had an incursion into the goal as they don't dump into the corner goals, gotta love our scouting team and their depth of information for that one!