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Re: mini segway project

1. Ride a Segway
2. Be amazed
3. Say,"I can do that for around $1000"
4. Try to build your own.
5. Quickly discover why the real Segway costs so much
6. Abandon the project and save your money.
7. Buy the real thing.

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Re: mini segway project

This sounds like a really fun project! Keep in mind that keeping a mini Segway balanced is actually more difficult than the real thing. Think about trying to balance a pencil on the tip of you finger versus a broomstick. But it is by no means impossible.

As for getting it started: When it's normally balanced and stationary, the drive motors are constantly canceling out minor displacements forward and backward. If you suddenly ALLOW a small amount of forward displacement (while still restraining backward tilting) it would naturally fall forward a bit. It would provide enough torque at the wheels to balance this offset and start moving forward. When you are done accelerating, take out the offset and it should return to constant velocity. Easier said than done...but it might be a starting point.
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Re: mini segway project

This page should help you:

http://www.geology.smu.edu/~dpa-www/robo/nbot/


And here is some info from the segway site:

http://www.segway.com/segway/how_it_works.html
http://www.segway.com/segway/component_details.html

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Re: mini segway project

You got to post pics when you are done. I think a segway that a pet can ride would be pretty funny. lol. You may want to look into gyroscopes that will fit the project. Since it will be a lot smaller, a foot you said, than try and make sure that the motors, speedcontrollers, gyroscopes, battery, and everything else can fit.
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Re: mini segway project

i would try finding an rc parachutist and using the servos in tthat control your wieght issue. another thing u could consoder is using an rc gyro also, however i really dont know much about custom electronics so ggood luck.
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Re: mini segway project

Has anyone ever thought about using a servo neat the top of the balancing bot to shift the platform's center of mass? This would probably simplify things code wise, because all you would need is a handler to change the position of the servo, and the robot to always try and balance itself.. instead of the robot trying to balance and modifying the wheel speed to drive which way you want.
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Re: mini segway project

You could also use ultrasonic sensors, so when it tips forward the ultrasonic sensor is at an angle and can "see" the ground. You know if the ultrasonic sensor is on the front or back, you can accelerate in either direction based on this knowledge.
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Re: mini segway project

problem there, going up hills, like a slight hill. Wont work that well without some major fine tunning, programming, and engineering. I dont recomend the ultrasonic sensor idea.
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Re: mini segway project

This sounds like a fun project and all the power to ya! Just please keep in mind any and all safety hazards if you or a friend decides to "ride" it (I know its a "mini segway" right now)! Sometimes experimental balancing machines can go a little funky, and its really no fun to be moving around 10mph and have the machine fail- sending you pounding down into the pavement at that speed.
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