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Re: Choose the FIRST Anthem?

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four (4) whole pages of responses to this thread in less than 24 hours! That must mean that we're passionate about our music and what gets played at FIRST events.

Let's be POSITIVE about what FIRST can do to "go back to the studio". As Dean himself said in Boston, these two songs were a) very rough cuts and b) were inspired by a 3rd-party studio who did them for free or nominal charge as an experiment (isn't that what science is all about anyways?).

As I said in a prior thread, I highly suspect the reason that FIRST wants to use some of its own music is to avoid paying royalties. I'm 99% sure that you can't play "YMCA" at any public venue without copyright concerns.

So, let's be POSITIVE, not negative, and start to brainstorm some catchy lyrics and suggest a danceable beat (e.g. something that has the same beat as a Michael Jackson tune.....etc)...So, keep the suggestions coming.
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I haven't heard the music, but I read the lyrics. Let me break it down for the first one.

F-We're gonna write the future
I-a little inspiration
R-rock the bleachers
S-T- scientifically.

Not only are these inconsistent, but S and T don't get their own lines. Seriously, they could have at least done S-Science & T-Technology, to reference what FIRST originally stood for. Secondly, How does one go about "rocking" bleachers, especially when most of the regionals/nationals don't even have bleachers to be rocked. I'd imagine rocking the bleachers could be very dangerous, because there should be people in the bleachers.

First- we're gonna kick a little
First-gonna give a little
First- it's gonna take a little energy

In all of the FIRST anything that I have ever gone to, I have never seen anything kicked, unless someone was angry. Secondly, doesn't first take a lot of energy and time? Not only that, but using the words gonna and little three times in three lines just sounds stupid.

First-cause we got the vision
First-than we're gonna build it
First- gonna make a difference
We are gonna be...
F-I-R-S-T

We got the vision, than we're gonna build it. Now I'm no English professor, but I was taught in 6th grade that "than" was reserved for comparisons, like "Whoever wrote this is worse at writing songs than Nickleback." For those of you who like Nickleback, I'm sorry...that you like Nickleback. I really wish Nickleback's music would somehow be erased and that the members of the group would become paralyzed from the neck down, but I digress. In addition, I'm sort of embarrassed by reading those lyrics, much less hearing them.

First- did you ever wonder
First-The facts we uncover
First- We gotta crunch the numbers
Now let's work it

No, I have never wondered what facts you uncovered, plus, wonder and uncover don't even rhyme.
If this was a real song, "Now lets work it" would logically be followed by an instrumental solo, but I don't have the music, so maybe someone could fill me in. If the musical tastes of the people on this forum are close to the musical tastes of whoever wrote this crapfest, it would more likely be some synthesized J-Pop bebooping loop for around a half a minute that a drunk orangutan could make in fruity loops. I hope someone could fill me in.

First- cause it's now or never
First-let's put it all together
First-it's time to pull the leather
Watch who winds up...FIRST.

Alright, I'll admit, I cheated a little bit. I broke up the last stanza into two parts. At our last team meeting before the robot shipped, one of the freshman was sitting around, doing nothing. I walked up to him and said "Jeremy, it's time to pull the leather." He immediately jumped up and started working on the robot, after filling out 13 college applications for mechanical engineering. Man, he was so inspired by that. What does pulling leather have to do with FIRST at all? Do you even pull leather? I mean, seriously. I went to rhymezone.com and came up with a few other words that rhymed with together, and made additional lyrics and are offering them to FIRST free of charge.
First-Now here's Joe, with the weather
First-my favorite sport is tether...ball
First-let's have a team get-together
First-i found an eagle feather
None of these make any sense or relate to First, except number three, but that was an accident. All of these would be just as good in the song as it's time to pull the leather.

For all of you that are complaining that you can't hear the lyrics, you should thank god instead.

edit: I vote for MC Chris for the re-writing/re-recording.

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Re: Choose the FIRST Anthem?

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If FIRST needs an anthem—and I'm by no means convinced that it does—they ought to take the example of the Olympics, or of the European Union; hold a contest or a assemble a panel to find something with a little dignity and panache,
Unfortunately, you might end up with the Olympic Hymn, which is a real snooze-a-rama. The best songs are written by a person with passion for the topic. Roboticists, start your MIDIs.
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Re: Choose the FIRST Anthem?

What about some Linking Park, Techno super remix

how much should it cost for an hour or two in the studio with linking park. and some DJ (I perfer DJ Assault do the mixing, because he's good.)
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Re: Choose the FIRST Anthem?

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Re: Choose the FIRST Anthem?

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How about no!

Just...no...no to 1, no to 2...just no.

I know they are trying really hard, and I appreciate the effort...but after hearing it a billion times in Boston...I was pretty much ready to jump off of the Bunker Hill Bridge.

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i agree
neither of them are 'catchy' and they are way to cheesy
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Re: Choose the FIRST Anthem?

I don't think this has anything to do with royalties for the music at the events. FIRST hires DJ's and those fees are covered in there...unless you're going to completely eliminate DJ's from the competition, you're never going to avoid those fees. Unless we want to hear a non-stop 8 hour mix of Shiny Dirt

Musically I like the second one better, but I heard them say F-I-R-S-T the first time...ugh.

Someone mentioned Will Smith. Seriously...he knows about FIRST, he's given the speech for the Championship...why HASN'T this happened yet??

The music in the promo videos that they are running at the regionals isn't half bad - was that custom made for the videos?

Kev - who is interested to see where this goes...and is brushing the dust off his recording equipment...
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Re: Choose the FIRST Anthem?

I'm going to have to agree with what Joe Matt said. FIRST shouldn't need to stoop to the anthem-writing level. I understand that this was a free/donated venture into the unknown, and I applaud them for giving it a shot, but I guess this just wasn't the right idea to try.

No, I have not listened to the songs yet, but to all of the critics inside of everyone, no matter how cheesy the songs sound, think about the age range here. FIRST isn't just about high schoolers. There are FLL teams in the 8 year old range while we have a mentor on our team in the 78 year old range - that is a huge spread and a wide variety of musical tastes to accomodate.

Yes, I'm going to say that I don't like them already, based off of the lyrics, but I am still interested to see what other people can come up with - let's give Kevin and the other composers some time and see what they can do, eh?
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Re: Choose the FIRST Anthem?

this was the better song UNTIL THIS POINT!!! and 5 of us volunteers standing around the field were just like "OMG THAT KILLED IT!!!!"

i still go with niether... they need to making something from scracth not try to follow other things...
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Hey I've written the FIRST Anthem - unfortunately the Music it is based on,

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Here are my Lyrics to Addicted to FIRST:

With apologies to Robert Palmer:

Addicted to FIRST!

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Your lights are on, but your voltage's low,
You can't get autonomous mode.
Your finger's twitch, your body aches
Another match is all it takes.

You can't sleep, you can't eat
There's no doubt, you're in deep
Your throat is tight, you can't breathe
Another match is all you need.

Ohh oohh
you like to think that math and science are tough
It's closer to the truth to say you can't get enough
you know you're gonna have to face it
you're addicted to FIRST.

You see the score, but you can't read
You're gearin' at the wrong speed.
You motors smoke, the belts they strip,
Don't give me any lip, you're losing grip, not very hip.

You can't be saved
Another round is all you crave
If there's some action left for you
You don't mind if you do

Ohh oohh
You like to think that math and science are tough
It's closer to the truth to say you can't get enough,
you know you're gonna have to face it
you're addicted to FIRST

Might as well face it, you're addicted to FIRST(5x)

Your lights are on, but your voltage's low
You can't get remote control,
Your joystick's stuck, your feeling sink
Your drive trains lost another link.

Ohh oohh
you like to think that math and science are tough
It's closer to the truth to say you can't get enough
you know you're gonna have to face it
you're addicted to FIRST

Might as well face it, you're addicted to FIRST(5x)

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(I tried to talk one of Dean's Director buddy Paul into producing it, but he said he wouldn't do it unless he could get super models riding Segways!)
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Re: Choose the FIRST Anthem?

We need to do what they did back in the old days, commission someone with talent and experience to write a FIRST anthem

someone like, I dont know..... Austin Powers?

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Im mean, are we so strange that no musician has ever wrote about what we are all about? There is nothing already out there that makes us stop and say "hey, thats us dude!"

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Re: Choose the FIRST Anthem?

By the way, why is the first anthem a rock song? The whole competition is non-stop happycore and techno. I think FIRST should commission joshua(www.joshuahardcore.com) to make the FIRST theme. An hour long happy hardcore techno song would make a much more fitting theme...
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Re: Choose the FIRST Anthem?

I think someone's face @ FIRST is turning really red after reading this thread and realizing this might not have been the best idea- however they prob have not paid for these songs yet... most likely they put up a project an companies are currently bidding on the project and giving first samples of what the song will sound like.
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Re: Choose the FIRST Anthem?

I think the songs should have no reference to robotics. FIRST isn't robotics. FIRST is insperation.

But I DO fear these songs.
I fear hearing them over and over.
I really fear people from outside of FIRST hearing them. It would be a disaster. For years now, people are starting to understand FIRST. People are starting to forget battlebots. People are starting to think FIRST is cool.

These songs would be a setback.

Maybe we should do a camp song we can all sing along to.
Oh Camp Ivy
How we love your leaves
Your itchy-ness makes us happy
Your beds are full of fleas
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