Do you agree?

[DaveA412]

stopping a bot from scoring 80 points is jut as good as scoring 80 points?

[RoboMadi]

Well it depends on teams game strategy, but why not. I guess it would be as beneficial as scoring too. And to my knowledge there are many defensive robots out there, and most of the time teams pick other alliances keeping in mind how defensive there robot is.

[rangersteve]

I would disagree, only because of the system where you are ranked by your opponents score. Other than that yes, so in elimination rounds it is the same.

[Andrew Blair]

Depends on if you're down at the time. If you're a few points under, it doesn't matter if you block eighty points, you still are a few points under. But, by defending and keeping the low point margin, you stand a better chance at the end of making up those few points on the ramp. It all depends on where the match is at the time.

[newton418]

From experience, I am obligated to agree. I was the driver for team 418 (LASA) and we played 118 (the Robonauts) in the Lone Star Regional Finals. 118 is actually capable of scoring 80+ points (37-40 in autonomous). Our allience (231, 1421 and us) agreed I would do what I could to stop them from scoring. Though 231 had an amazing shooter and 1421 were an awesome dumper, I do not believe we could have won had 118 been allowed to do their thing. This was not the only instance we used this strategy; however, it is the most obvious, and because this strategy worked so well, I definately agree.

[Lil' Lavery]

Disagree.
If you are down by 1 point, and stop them from scoring 10billion points, you are still down by 1 point. Additionally, every ball scored by their alliance is now under your alliances control, and able to for you to score again.
I will grant you that stopping them from scoring 80 points is better than them scoring 80 points, for quite obvious reasons. This game is all about who can score more effeciently, and often, who can score last (as to not give the opponent the chance and appropriate ball quantity to respond).

[Liz Smith]

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery

Disagree.
If you are down by 1 point, and stop them from scoring 10billion points, you are still down by 1 point. Additionally, every ball scored by their alliance is now under your alliances control, and able to for you to score again.

Well, that is true, but if your robot scores that 1 point, and said robot scores those 10 billion points, you've still lost (by a lot actually ).

Thankfully this problem has been solved by the existence of alliances! I would love to have a robot that could stop 10 billion points (ok, I'll settle for 80 points )

[Tim Delles]

Originally Posted by DaveA412

stopping a bot from scoring 80 points is jut as good as scoring 80 points?

The real question is can you score 80 points. Thier aren't many teams that can score 80 points.

[Bill_Hancoc]

I agree with the people who have said that if youre still under by justa few points it doesnt matter you need to score the points not block them

[akshar]

Originally Posted by Bill_Hancoc

I agree with the people who have said that if youre still under by justa few points it doesnt matter you need to score the points not block them

but if you block them from the beginning of the game...u might not be under at all

[Dillon Compton]

Hey, guys, it wasnt a question of whether or not you could stop 80 pts from being scored, or score 83, 87, 1394... points; the question was if blocking 80 points is as good as scoring 80 points- that is to say80 points in both situations- the point differential will not be any different

I'm inclined to say that it is as good or better to block points as score them, in equal amounts- in the interest of being selected, at least, even if not selecting during alliance picking, I think that strong defensive robots are much more visible and noticeable than strong scoring robots; there are less people that can shut down (insert number of points here) than can score (insert same number) at any given event.

[Cody Carey]

In my experience at the philly regional this weekend, blocking is better...

In the finals, we were against team 84, Chuck. They built an amazing robot that filled up all match so they could score 30+ points at the end of it. The only way we beat them was by keeping them on their own side of the field, away from our goal.

[Ebolagirl]

Like Newton418 said, for us stopping 118 from scoring 80 points (which they could easily do) was way better than just trying to score 80 points ourselves. Our alliance was scoring in the 60's throughout the finals, semi-finals, and finals. If our alliance had just tried to score against 118 instead of preventing them from scoring we would not have been able to top their score, especially because their alliance partner team 437 was also an awesome shooter. So I'm all for having a great defensive bot in an alliance. Actually, I think most of the alliances that were made for the finals, etc. included a defensive bot and the ones that didn't have a strong defensive bot were knocked out.

[Jeff Beckett]

one thing you can forget is if there is another robot that can score lots of points. you can't block both at the same time. this is where i would say scoring the points is better just for the fact of keeping it close. just my two cents.

[Gdeaver]

This weekend I saw some very effective coordinated defensive attacks on good shooters. They were contained and controlled. Look what happened in Philly. The defensive attacks are only going to get better and more coordinated. For offensive super shooters to succeed I believe they are going to have to work more with their alliance setting up picks and screens. I noticed that if you constantly whack an auto aiming shooter, they are ineffective. Don't try to push them, Use the hammer drill on them. At the end of this week i believe defensive strategies are on top.