Average Scoring for Individual Bots

[rourke]

You really need to account for scoring "efficiency" as well as for the score. A robot that scores an average of 30 points, but converts less than 50% of attempts is not as valuable to an alliance as a robot that averages 30 points but converts 75%+. Good scouting teams are not only keeping track of average scores, but they are also factoring in the percentage of completions (scoring efficiency) in ranking the best shooters. You don't want a partner that wastes all the balls (and precious time) just to get 30 points.

[ScoutingNerd175]

Originally Posted by rourke

You really need to account for scoring "efficiency" as well as for the score. A robot that scores an average of 30 points, but converts less than 50% of attempts is not as valuable to an alliance as a robot that averages 30 points but converts 75%+. Good scouting teams are not only keeping track of average scores, but they are also factoring in the percentage of completions (scoring efficiency) in ranking the best shooters. You don't want a partner that wastes all the balls (and precious time) just to get 30 points.

Actually, we have a similar scoring system and we tend to believe that comes out in the wash. If YYY scores 5 balls in auton out of ten by spraying out 10 balls vs. team XXX who takes forever to line up and scores 5 balls, well it doesn't really matter to me. Each has scored 5 points. Doesn't matter to me, each is just as useful to the alliance, in my opinion. If they miss a lot of balls, this will probably figure into their average.

I don't figure their average including anything for bonus points. Not all good autons win bonus points and not all bonus point winning autons are good. We generally make a list of overall score and cross reference it with auton score (go sort function)

at any rate, I'm going to see how long I can keep the pocket PC on to type in scores, here we go.

I believe that lower goal scoring made a lot of difference in these rankings. This is total score average. The defense at this regional was amazing. As I look at this list, most of them also play great defense.

Chesapeake Regional
293-29 3rd Seed, great shooter, great looking, everyone wanted this one.
341-25.7 12th seed, Great robot, our first pick of the teams lower than us
56-25.5 11th seed, Really nice robot, I believe they made it a lot shorter for
this regional
399-23.29 16th seed, Excellent robot, probably should have been picked
sooner
175-20.1 4th Seed, Champions, someone else describe it, I can't
1389-19.29 38th Seed these guys were a 2nd round pick, should have gone a
lot earlier
1629-18 1st seed, very good robot, definitely wanted to be with them,
Champions
225-16.63 10th seed, Only lower score, great, consistent auton
237-16.29 13th seed, Very good upper scoring, excellent turret
888-15.86 5th seed, Good shooter, one of the best during match play, Finalist
103-14.71 22nd seed, Interesting system, unique robot
484-13.86 9th seed, Lower goal robot, consistent scorer
612-13.83 20th seed, Very nice machine, good all around, Chairmans award
winners (yeah, I know not the robot)
836-13.02 27th seed, great robot, good scoring during match, def. on our list
181-12.42 2nd seed, solid all around robot, would kick but with auton, Finalist
339-11.57 24th seed, the only top of ramp robot at the regional, very good,
got on to ramp in auton, hard to stop
1111-10.38 7th seed, shooting pretty good, lower quite good
1184-10.14 39th seed, Lower goal, good pusher, great ramp, Champions

Thats definite evidence for the fact that seed does not necessarily represent robot scoring ability.

[E. Wood]

Orginally Posted by ScoutingNerd175
I believe that lower goal scoring made a lot of difference in these rankings. This is total score average. The defense at this regional was amazing. As I look at this list, most of them also play great defense.

I was just wondering what total score means. Is the the average of the number of points each robot scored on its own (so my team 1629 averaged 6 shots in), or is this number based on some combination of ramp points, points scored during the match and auto-mode bonus points?

[ScoutingNerd175]

Originally Posted by E. Wood

I was just wondering what total score means. Is the the average of the number of points each robot scored on its own (so my team 1629 averaged 6 shots in), or is this number based on some combination of ramp points, points scored during the match and auto-mode bonus points?

Good question. This list takes into account only 1 point and 3 point goals scored. It also only takes into account qualification matches. (My team was too busy with other things while you guys were playing the finals ) So this list is pure robot ball scoring ability.

Somewhere else I have a list of the auton averages and the percent of times that a team attempted to go up the ramp and was successful. (for example, a match where the team was no where near the ramp and didn't try to get up would not be counted.) The somewhere that I have this is about a four hour drive away, if anyone is interested just ask. (But it'll be about a week until I get home)

As always, I will have all this data on going at Nationals and any one who is interested (and in my division) can come visit me in the stands.