YMTC: #1 Seed

[jDee_shaRpie]

I would probably have to re-read what you just wrote for me to make that decision.

[Ricky Q.]

Play to win or don't play at all.

[Greg Needel]

Originally Posted by Ricky Q.

Play to win or don't play at all.

ditto.

At most regionals (except for the large ones) you should expect to play against and with most teams. When teams choose to collaborate they should expect to be in those situations. Even if the robots are exactly the same the strategy can set each one apart from each other. So my take is and always will be play your game and let the match unfold as it will.

[Nawaid Ladak]

are you refering to any paticular teams...... the Triplets at GTR come to mind.

[KenWittlief]

ok, you throw the match. And then someone throws up a robot design rule challenge against your opponents, and they are disqualified.

So you win, with 0 points, they are out of the top 8, and everyone at the event thinks your team cant shoot its way out of a paper bag,

and your two alliance partners hate your team

whats more, everywhere you go for the rest of the day you have Ken Wittlief following you around, booing and heckling you until his voice gives out!

[Don Wright]

It could be any collaborated teams.

I'm just pointing out how things could possibly look.

I am not AT ALL SAYING THIS HAS OR WILL happen. It's just a YMTC since we haven't had many this year...

[henryBsick]

Go big or go home...

[mtaman02]

Play to win or don't bother continue competing. Before and after the competition (or match) we're friends: during the match is a different story - Not exactly GP but hey we all have a place on that ranking sheet - im gonna fight for my alliance in getting those spots.


Another way to look at this is look at Racing Events 2 - 3 teams under the same owner - fairly the same cars and setups would you really slow down to let your team mate win and get passed by 15 cars in doing so or do you floor it and take the trophy home yourself.

[Don Wright]

Originally Posted by mtaman02

Another way to look at this is look at Racing Events 2 - 3 teams under the same owner - fairly the same cars and setups would you really slow down to let your team mate win and get passed by 15 cars in doing so or do you floor it and take the trophy home yourself.

Actually, that's a good point in favor of throwing the match. "Team Rules" often happen in racing where a teammate is told to let their teammate pass and win because they are in the points race, and the person winning the race isn't.

[Bill Moore]

Originally Posted by Don Wright

Actually, that's a good point in favor of throwing the match. "Team Rules" often happen in racing where a teammate is told to let their teammate pass and win because they are in the points race, and the person winning the race isn't.

I haven't seen this in NASCAR; you must watch Formula 1.

[Katie Reynolds]

Originally Posted by Ricky Q.

Play to win or don't play at all.

I agree.

I think throwing a match is disrespectful to the partners in your alliance, the alliance playing against you, your own team and its supporters. One of the cool things about FIRST is that we "compete like crazy" on the field (and cooperate like crazy off the field). How can you do that, if you're throwing matches?

[Tim Delles]

You have to play.

I don't know any team in FIRST or really any mentors in FIRST that would tell a team to throw a match. I know that i sure haven't and will never say we should throw a match. That is not and never will be part of FIRST.

[akshar]

1st: what is the robot design rule?

2nd: i agree that throwing the game is disrespectful. furthermore, if Robot B threw the game, everyone there including robot 1's scouts would see it... would u want an alliance partner who had just thrown the match for their alliance?

[Corey Balint]

Originally Posted by Tim Delles

I don't know any team in FIRST or really any mentors in FIRST that would tell a team to throw a match. I know that i sure haven't and will never say we should throw a match. That is not and never will be part of FIRST.

I have seen this happen..its not the moral thing to do, but it can be considered smart, if you are going for what you think would be the sure win.

Personally, I would never throw a match, no matter who it would get me alligned with. As Henry said, "Go Big or Go Home."

[Jack Jones]

Not enough choices.
You forgot these:

• B sandbags C, meanwhile X dumps on A so that Y gets #1 seed and chooses Z and W and gives X an IOU.

• B sandbags C, but the scoring software gives them the win by mistake, causing B to protest their win and everyone else to detest B, but not by mistake.

• The US invades Canada mid April for NAFTA violations (at least that's the excuse given) and the Champs end up being played late July in Hamilton, Ontario because the Triplets aligned with Woburn and took out the first wave of Bradleys then a division of M1A1s.

• The Martians invade Atlanta but are done in by the common cold (great idea for a radio script), meanwhile all the scheming and dealing backfire into causing a Championship alliance made up of the three teams from New Mexico who conspired when no one was looking.

Regards,
Resident Cynic