YMTC: #1 Seed

[Don Wright]

It could be any collaborated teams.

I'm just pointing out how things could possibly look.

I am not AT ALL SAYING THIS HAS OR WILL happen. It's just a YMTC since we haven't had many this year...

[henryBsick]

Go big or go home...

[mtaman02]

Play to win or don't bother continue competing. Before and after the competition (or match) we're friends: during the match is a different story - Not exactly GP but hey we all have a place on that ranking sheet - im gonna fight for my alliance in getting those spots.


Another way to look at this is look at Racing Events 2 - 3 teams under the same owner - fairly the same cars and setups would you really slow down to let your team mate win and get passed by 15 cars in doing so or do you floor it and take the trophy home yourself.

[Don Wright]

Originally Posted by mtaman02

Another way to look at this is look at Racing Events 2 - 3 teams under the same owner - fairly the same cars and setups would you really slow down to let your team mate win and get passed by 15 cars in doing so or do you floor it and take the trophy home yourself.

Actually, that's a good point in favor of throwing the match. "Team Rules" often happen in racing where a teammate is told to let their teammate pass and win because they are in the points race, and the person winning the race isn't.

[Bill Moore]

Originally Posted by Don Wright

Actually, that's a good point in favor of throwing the match. "Team Rules" often happen in racing where a teammate is told to let their teammate pass and win because they are in the points race, and the person winning the race isn't.

I haven't seen this in NASCAR; you must watch Formula 1.

[Katie Reynolds]

Originally Posted by Ricky Q.

Play to win or don't play at all.

I agree.

I think throwing a match is disrespectful to the partners in your alliance, the alliance playing against you, your own team and its supporters. One of the cool things about FIRST is that we "compete like crazy" on the field (and cooperate like crazy off the field). How can you do that, if you're throwing matches?

[Tim Delles]

You have to play.

I don't know any team in FIRST or really any mentors in FIRST that would tell a team to throw a match. I know that i sure haven't and will never say we should throw a match. That is not and never will be part of FIRST.

[akshar]

1st: what is the robot design rule?

2nd: i agree that throwing the game is disrespectful. furthermore, if Robot B threw the game, everyone there including robot 1's scouts would see it... would u want an alliance partner who had just thrown the match for their alliance?

[KenWittlief]

Originally Posted by guju4life2005

1st: what is the robot design rule?

someone alleges that the robots are in violation - IE, overweight, shooter too fast, illegal battery....

[Cory]

Originally Posted by KenWittlief

someone alleges that the robots are in violation - IE, overweight, shooter too fast, illegal battery....

and this makes a difference how?

If the robot isn't illegal, it does nothing but make you look like a jerk.

[KenWittlief]

Originally Posted by Cory

and this makes a difference how?

If the robot isn't illegal, it does nothing but make you look like a jerk.

if the robot was illegal then they are disqualified and lose the match

the point is you never know what will happen in a match - you decide to throw a match because you know your friends on the opposite side of the field will win... and you may end up looking like idiots

[ScoutingNerd175]

And then, of course, there is robot E who is also allied with you. You don't know it but they are a small underfunded team who has never been picked to play in the finals before. They have had unusually good luck at this event and nothing has broken down. If you had won the match, they would have been in the top 8 and guaranteed to play in the finals. But you didn't, you threw the match and they were knocked out of the top 8 and weren't picked.

Extreme example I know, but just so long as we are inventing scenarios. When you throw a match you hurt everyone on your alliance. It would be irresponsible and un-GP to throw a match, no matter what the circumstances. This is how first works. Teams help each other of the field and play their hardest on it.

[Corey Balint]

Originally Posted by Tim Delles

I don't know any team in FIRST or really any mentors in FIRST that would tell a team to throw a match. I know that i sure haven't and will never say we should throw a match. That is not and never will be part of FIRST.

I have seen this happen..its not the moral thing to do, but it can be considered smart, if you are going for what you think would be the sure win.

Personally, I would never throw a match, no matter who it would get me alligned with. As Henry said, "Go Big or Go Home."

[Jack Jones]

Not enough choices.
You forgot these:

• B sandbags C, meanwhile X dumps on A so that Y gets #1 seed and chooses Z and W and gives X an IOU.

• B sandbags C, but the scoring software gives them the win by mistake, causing B to protest their win and everyone else to detest B, but not by mistake.

• The US invades Canada mid April for NAFTA violations (at least that's the excuse given) and the Champs end up being played late July in Hamilton, Ontario because the Triplets aligned with Woburn and took out the first wave of Bradleys then a division of M1A1s.

• The Martians invade Atlanta but are done in by the common cold (great idea for a radio script), meanwhile all the scheming and dealing backfire into causing a Championship alliance made up of the three teams from New Mexico who conspired when no one was looking.

Regards,
Resident Cynic

[Matt Krass]

You play your hardest, you do your best, anything less doesn't belong out there.