Which type of offense is better?

I personally believe that a mobile shooter is the best option. I believe this not due to a winning attitude, but due to the idea of the acheivements. It is much easier to create a good ramp spammer than it is to create a shooter from the floor, and still be accurate.

A team will end up learning more and will end up with more knowledge if they design and effectively implement a floor shooter.

[Jherbie53]

Originally Posted by 1derboy

The turret scorer is strong but there is on more design that is the best. "Corner Ramp Camper" the two best robots I saw (85 and 111) shot from the corner of the ramp into the goal. It is the best strategy. It makes you impossible to move.

Not impossible, 85 was pushed at a awkward angle and got stuck on the ramp wall at West Michigan. This only happened because of our opening to pickup balls, and we also broke the wall so there was black tape there to fix it.

107 and 451 both went up the ramp to score. I think 451 ever did it during autonomous once or twice at West Michigan, but I'm not completely sure. Also 141 did the same thing. These teams are good and its too bad that only 451 will be at Nationals.

[Andrew Blair]

Originally Posted by 114ManualLabor

I personally believe that a mobile shooter is the best option. I believe this not due to a winning attitude, but due to the idea of the acheivements. It is much easier to create a good ramp spammer than it is to create a shooter from the floor, and still be accurate.

A team will end up learning more and will end up with more knowledge if they design and effectively implement a floor shooter.

Depends on what you're trying to learn. If you mean tracking algorithms, turret mechanics, and perhaps controls knowledge...maybe. But only if you have the resources. From far too much experience (myself the biggest offender), pursuing more than is practical for your team will get you more headaches and frustration than it will knowledge. A team that decides on a strategy, perhaps conservative, and pursues it to the best of their ability might learn more in terms of real-world knowledge and be more successful.

There aren't many companies that have the resources to pursue more than one industry...and the ones that do without the capability either fail or reorganize!

[santosh]

I personally think that a team that can run around on teh field and score is better. I saw a couple of teams (832 an 222) which were amazing robots that took a lot of thinking and precise machinig and all that good stuff that turnd out to be amazing campers (i know 832 could do both, not sure about 222). But, they could still be pushed around by strong teams. I know teams went out of their way to have a bot stay back while on offense to stop the back bot (222) from gettiing on the ramp. Getting on the ramp can be pretty hard and plus, you can still be moved around.

Another thing is that getting more balls seems as if it would be more difficult with a robot that stays on the ramp. I know 222 had the human player load it while it was on the ramp. Sometimes it can be a little difficult to get the ball in from 50 feet away. And if you have to get off the ramp to pick up more balls, it gives the other alliance another chance to stop you from getting on the ramp or in your sweet spot position.

[Dylan Gramlich]

Originally Posted by Tim Delles

Well if you camp the ramp, then you better be able to shoot from off the ramp. Just take a look at 25 and 254. Heck you could even say 1126(I know they can they just haven't from the ramp, but i am hoping to see them do it), 111, 1114, 1503.

These are all teams that can camp the ramp but can also shoot extremely well from the floor as well.

i dont kno if we will ever do it because of our lack of practice (but keep in mind that can all change) u never kno maybe on thursday we will try. I am the coach i hope that i have some say in what we practice...unless...yes!! of course!!!....MUTINY !!!!!my team is commiting mutiny!!!!!!! help!!! o wait false alarm but both of these thoughts will stay in my mind and tim i could always use some back up with the mutiny of course