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Re: Championship - Final Round Animations

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oh im sorry no i did not mean it in anyway that you should voice your oppinion I just dont think that a soul team like mine should be like Team 302 OWNS and we already won <--- that was an example I didnt mean you should voice your oppinion because some teams out there did way better than we did and that was amazing Im very proud of other teams
My opinion was made about a team that I'm not even involved with.
My team didn't make the final cut so I'm picking from the pool of finalist. I liked that animation from the first time I saw it and I'm not changing that opinion because some people think that it's unfair.
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Re: Championship - Final Round Animations

Now I wonder how the First Round of Professional Judging picked the animations that didn't win Regionals. Obviously they didn't pick a second animation for every Regional (56 total - 33 regional winners = 23 animations) but looked at all of them and chose another top two dozen or so. Does anyone know? Whether Autodesk had to have 56 animations for the national competition or was it more like, nominate all of the good animations that didn't win Regionals?

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Re: Championship - Final Round Animations

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My opinion was made about a team that I'm not even involved with.
My team didn't make the final cut so I'm picking from the pool of finalist. I liked that animation from the first time I saw it and I'm not changing that opinion because some people think that it's unfair.
Koko, please understand that no one is asking you to censor your opinion. The point here is, it's sometimes best to use different wording. The usage of by far the best normally denotes that everyone elses animation is awful or mediocre in comparison. I'd say using the words "a top canidate for nationals" or "one of the best animations submitted" a better wording.

If I posted that Team 5 was by far the best robot out there, I would be saying that other teams are mediocre, or even poor in comparison. This can easily be percieved as an insult.

Please don't take this the wrong way. I'm not asking you to censor your opinions or change them. I understand that you're presenting it as an opinion, but the way it is said seems to insult other teams. I know this is not your intention, but it is percieved in that manner.

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Now I wonder how the First Round of Professional Judging picked the animation that didn't win Regionals. Obviously they didn't pick a second animation for every Regional (56 total - 33 regional winners = 23 animations) but looked at all of them and chose the top two dozen or so. Does anyone know? Whether Autodesk had to have 56 animations for the national competition or was it more like, nominate all of the good animations that didn't win Regionals?
I don't exactly know how Autodesk deems animations worthy for judging, I doubt they have a set quota. My guess is that judges simply look at animations and just decide whether they are good or not. I assume the judges have a set criteria to match.

Perhaps they have the judges do a quick scoring of all the animations, and then declare a certain cutoff threshold. This seems like the best and most fair way to do this.

I doubt student scores are used in this process, as the documents received declared that the first round of judging was to be professional.

As for animation, I'm very happy for all teams who were chosen, all of us put in an inordinate amount of time and effort - and that making it on the list is a stellar achievement.
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Unread 27-04-2006, 22:31
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Re: Championship - Final Round Animations

Can someone please post the winners of the AVA competition after they're announced? It turns out that I won't be able to watch the webcast of the event after all. I heard that the announcement time is tentatively 8:45am tomorrow, sometime during the opening ceremony. It'd be 5:45am local time for me. >__< I doubt I have enough willpower to wake up that early anyways.

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Re: Championship - Final Round Animations

I would like to know as well. I may be able to watch parts of the openening ceremony during my 3rd period Comp. Graphics class, but that doesn't start until 9:00 am, and I was having trouble getting the webcast to play properly on the school computers
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Re: Championship - Final Round Animations

I see 234 made the list even though they did not win a Regional animation award. Good luck guys! It figures that the year after I leave, Autodesk and FIRST allow animations that didn't win regionally to be judged for the Championship level award
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Re: Championship - Final Round Animations

i would also like to know who won the Visualization Award and the Rising Star Award...i was in school when the award ceremonies were occuring and couldnt watch it in school because the webcast was blocked on all the school computers....

Does anyone know who one?? im dying here trying to find out....i was hoping they might have posted it on streamline by now....
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Re: Championship - Final Round Animations

Well...okay. Never mind. The winners for AVA 2006 have been posted on the FIRST website.

http://www2.usfirst.org/2006comp/Eve...IN/awards.html

Congratulations to Team 192, 114, and 1756!! They are the Grand Prize, Honorable Mention, and Rising Start winners, respectively.
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Re: Championship - Final Round Animations

how does the scoreing work for the final round.
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Re: Championship - Final Round Animations

Congratulations to all the teams coming home with an award this year.

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how does the scoreing work for the final round.
I'm pretty sure it works just like regional scoring - technical execution, creativity, and concept. I'll be honest that I'm still trying to decide what made the winner stand out to the scoring team, but then again, I'm a little biased It would be interesting to know what exactly the judges are looking for in winning submissions. If anything, it proves we still have plenty to learn
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Re: Championship - Final Round Animations

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It's no different that people say what robot win the championship. I just think they should take the time to look at the other animations before making those decisions (much easier to do for the animatiors than people predicting which robots are best).
That being said I noticed that what FIRST prefers for animation on the National level is a whole different animal from what they prefer on the regional level, which annoys me to no end. Vote one way or the other but don't change the process. I say let the animators vote for it instead of some panel of experts.
Exactly. Winning an animation award at the regional level is indeed wayy different then winning it at a national level. If so Mike Roushy would have 1 (or more) National Animation award.
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Re: Championship - Final Round Animations

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Well...okay. Never mind. The winners for AVA 2006 have been posted on the FIRST website.

http://www2.usfirst.org/2006comp/Eve...IN/awards.html

Congratulations to Team 192, 114, and 1756!! They are the Grand Prize, Honorable Mention, and Rising Start winners, respectively.
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I see 234 made the list even though they did not win a Regional animation award. Good luck guys! It figures that the year after I leave, Autodesk and FIRST allow animations that didn't win regionally to be judged for the Championship level award
I was wondering how our animation made it to Nationals as well, as we did not win the animation prize at the San Jose Regional. In fact, we didn't even realize we were in the running for the National competition. Apparently, Regional animations are student and peer judged. Professional judges have the option of sending animations they feel are worthy of recognition on to nationals, even if the animation was not recognized at Regionals. This was the case with our animation, and probably team 234's animation as well.
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Re: Championship - Final Round Animations

For the last few years - Ever since peer Judging was introduced, Autodesk has been sending extra animations to the Finals (non-regional-winners). In year number one of Peer Judging, the rule was winner and runner-up, in addition to those people they sent more. This year was the first year that they actually did it legally-- Meaning they put it in the rules.

I always stated that it was the right thing to do, because a tough competition in one regional and weak competition in another regional will result in weak animations winning weak regionals and possible 2 or 3 good runner-ups from a strong regional (animation competition wise) being out of the mix at the Championships. I am just a stickler for the rules- otherwise, dont have rules!

If you take a look at the rules, its all there... this year!

Also- The Professional/Final Round Judging are supposed to judge by the same criteria as the peer judging. But some times I don't know what they are actually looking at. No offence- Lots of people feel that way year after year. A couple years ago the team didn't even have animation for most of their submission and presto- they won! Go figure.

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Re: Championship - Final Round Animations

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I see 234 made the list even though they did not win a Regional animation award. Good luck guys! It figures that the year after I leave, Autodesk and FIRST allow animations that didn't win regionally to be judged for the Championship level award
yeah, I also was surprised that our animation made it. here's to winning a regional next year
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