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Re: Language at Championships

Don't worry about it guys, it wasn't a problem at all. I was actually embarrassed about how the chaperon on our side handled it, as well as her son. Without going into too much detail, I think that it's great that the teams themselves feel this sort of gracious professionalism toward each other, and it's a shame that the chaperones don't quite understand the mutual respect we share (on our side, it was a parent who just tagged along with the team).
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Don't worry about it guys, it wasn't a problem at all. I was actually embarrassed about how the chaperon on our side handled it, as well as her son. Without going into too much detail, I think that it's great that the teams themselves feel this sort of gracious professionalism toward each other, and it's a shame that the chaperones don't quite understand the mutual respect we share (on our side, it was a parent who just tagged along with the team).
That's the exact situation on our team as well (even the fact that her son was contributing to the problem). I'm just glad there are no hard feelings, and I feel a good bit better now.
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Re: Language at Championships

In our pit area where I spent most of my time I hadn't thought that this was a big issue. I don't recall ever hearing any swearing or for a fact no one being mad and yelling. But one thing from being an ex-team member and as a driver are the coaches. I have on many instances been driving and have overheard team mentors on the field swearing and yelling at the drivers and/or refs. I think that's where we need to start is on the adults. If we get the adults to crack down on the swearing and anger management then they can work on their students. I know the drivers would be in more control and more cool and calm if the mentors weren't screaming in their ear. The kids lose site of what FIRST is about when they are competing because the mentors are about winning and robot driving. I have seen in once case where a mentor was screaming soooo much at a kid the the kid started to cry. That's one reason why I would like to see all student/college mentors on the field rather then adults. They can relate to them better as they know them better. Another thing I noticed are the National Chairmans award winners. Myself and another adult had walked through the hall of fame and no one that was at their display was friendly.No one said hi or do you have any questions, they just looked at you like they were better then you. If you listen to some of the members in their pit area you could be amazed at what you hear. These are supposed to be National Chairmans award winners. They are supposed to be setting an example for other teams in FIRST. These are just some of my thought from the past.
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They are supposed to be setting an example for other teams in FIRST.
There are two types of team members and mentors:

Those who want to be FIRST.
Those who want to be first.

Those who want to be FIRST are and do exactly what FIRST represents and do and act the same as well. Those who want to be first, do what being first represents: being the top, being the king, doing what it takes and not careing too much for their surroundings. To some, competition is a driving force and if a trophy is not in their hands or a trophy is in their hands, FIRST suffers a loss for Gratious Professionalism......or do we? Possibly the greatest evidence of FIRST, is the teams that show the winning teams how to be FIRST.
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There are two types of team members and mentors:

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Those who want to be first.
I completely and utterly agree with everything you just said.
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Re: Language at Championships

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There are two types of team members and mentors:

Those who want to be FIRST.
Those who want to be first.

Those who want to be FIRST are and do exactly what FIRST represents and do and act the same as well. Those who want to be first, do what being first represents: being the top, being the king, doing what it takes and not careing too much for their surroundings. To some, competition is a driving force and if a trophy is not in their hands or a trophy is in their hands, FIRST suffers a loss for Gratious Professionalism......or do we? Possibly the greatest evidence of FIRST, is the teams that show the winning teams how to be FIRST.

You are SO right here - we have sponsored Little League baseball for many years in our community. In some years, we have had terrible situations with coaches (not often, thankfully) and parents browbeating kids over their performance, because they see the trophy as the accomplishment - and you can guess how those kids acted toward each other and their opposing teams! In other years, coaches have banned parents and kids who act ungraciously both on and off the field, and regardless of whether they came out on top, everyone had a great time.

On our team, we make sure that the students and mentors understand and agree that FIRST principles are the most important and that people are watching and listening to us all the time. We want to win - who doesn't? - but not at the cost of our personal character and gracious professionalism.
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Re: Language at Championships

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There are two types of team members and mentors:
Those who want to be FIRST.
Those who want to be first.
makes me think of a "mantra"...change it to suit your own team...Now, just repeat after me....

"I am here to have FUN each and every minute"
"I am here to be INSPIRED and learn from as many people as I can"
"I am here to be RESPECTFUL to my teammates, mentors, school, and sponsors"
"I am here to be SENSITIVE to others in what I say and do and how I act"
"I am here to be TRANSFORMED into a new person"

Funny.....those things add up to FIRST (what a capital idea!)
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