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View Poll Results: 360, Wii, or PS3 (go ahead, pick more than one if you like)
Microsoft XBOX 360 48 37.80%
Nintendo Revolution AKA: Wii 70 55.12%
Sony Playstation 3 40 31.50%
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Re: 360, Wii, or PS3

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But, the PS2 and XboX could play standard optical media, the PS2 could also play PS games. The GameCube couldn't. Anyway, the GameCube different.
ok, i see your point. but that is also another reason why i like the Wii better than 360. 360 can only play certain xbox games, while on the Wii you can play NES, SNES, N64, Genesis, and TurboGrafx 16, and gamecube games.
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I doubt the 220 gigaflops on the point of price, i am unsure of what the new CPUs for computers run at but if you consider the price of a nice new dual core 64 AMD FX series being nearly 1000 dollars alone. also a multi core proccessor is not really faster, its benifit is that it can to multiple tasks at once, one thru each core(im talking ultimate basic steps here)

heres a link to a fancy new AMD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103608
I don't know about the actual number of flops, however remember that the PS3 is not running on a standard x86 processor. It is running on a Cell processor which houses 8 SPEs or Synergistic Processing Elements (though I believe one or two of them are backups). Each SPE is capable of a theoretical 25.6 gigaflops at 3.2 GHz (see here). The IBM Blade servers based on Cell processors run at about 200 gigaflops at 3 GHz. Don't quote me on anything, I'm just taking it from a bit of research, a bit of discussion at a Darpa meeting, and a good deal of Wikipedia...
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ok, i see your point. but that is also another reason why i like the Wii better than 360. 360 can only play certain xbox games, while on the Wii you can play NES, SNES, N64, Genesis, and TurboGrafx 16, and gamecube games.
I would definitely say that having the classic games will be a huge plus. Being able to play the original Super Mario games the way you always wanted (with frantic rapid arm movements) is going to be awesome!
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Not really possible since it is sort of hard to test it, since it really isn't in the market in a testable situation yet. It's also power can't really be used in full since it is sort of specialized. Regardless of whether or not it gets the 220 gflop/s speed, it'll be fast, and there are 7 cores, so you'll be able to run a lot of things in parallel.
So you pulled the numbers out of your $@#$@#$@#, it can't be in the 10 ten super computers, and even though the thing has power, it's specialized for multimedia.

The cell is cool, but I think everybody is hyping this up beyond belief. The cell is a high optimized processor for multimedia that is scalable.
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Re: 360, Wii, or PS3

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So you pulled the numbers out of your $@#$@#$@#, it can't be in the 10 ten super computers, and even though the thing has power, it's specialized for multimedia.

The cell is cool, but I think everybody is hyping this up beyond belief. The cell is a high optimized processor for multimedia that is scalable.
I totally agree that the PS3 Cell is completely optimized for multimedia use, and that, though it is powerful, it's certainly not a supercomputer. I can't attest to lukevanoort's numbers, however the numbers that I quoted are indeed from a bit of research. That's not to say that they could be wrong though. The wikipedia article on Cell processors is a rather interesting read, and does in fact provide you with some numbers that could be used to get a good sense of the power of the machine. Again though, everyone should remember (as you did Joe Matt) that this machine is designed for gaming. Part of the power of the Cell is going directly to graphical computations.
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I don't plan on buying any of these systems. I don't really play video games anymore, just the occasional Halo killing spree. The only thing that would ever make me consider spending $475 (Xbox Premium + Game + Tax) would be Halo 3. I spent about $300 on my Xbox setup, which I used primarily for Halo 1/2. That seems like a lot, but I logged upwards of 5,000 games. Yeah... I didn't have too much of a life at that time.

Even at that, I'd wait for it to come down in price. The Wii looks like a fun system. Only downfall I can see is you "reeling" in your fish on your brand new Bassmaster 3000 game... and wacking your friend (whos sitting next to you) in the face.
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It's also fair to say that you can't directly compare the PS3 cells to the XBOX360 cells.

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/xbox360_vs_ps3.asp

Does anyone here actually own a XBOX360?
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Re: 360, Wii, or PS3

All the power in the world means diddly if the gameplay isn't there.
Right now, it looks like Nintendo will have some amazing gameplay with its innovative controller.
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Re: 360, Wii, or PS3

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All the power in the world means diddly if the gameplay isn't there.
Right now, it looks like Nintendo will have some amazing gameplay with its innovative controller.
Yes, but the redesign of the PS3 controller will also include motion sensing abilities. Granted, it probably won't be to the extent that the Wii has it, but it should be pretty interesting to see how it turns out. I suppose it would be pretty hard to make a realistic FPS without a system similar to the Wii though, and that's my favorite type of game. I'm looking forward to seeing how the new FPS titles incorporate the Wii control system. Nintendo hasn't had that many FPS titles in the past (especially not relative to the other two).
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Yes, but the redesign of the PS3 controller will also include motion sensing abilities. Granted, it probably won't be to the extent that the Wii has it, but it should be pretty interesting to see how it turns out. I suppose it would be pretty hard to make a realistic FPS without a system similar to the Wii though, and that's my favorite type of game. I'm looking forward to seeing how the new FPS titles incorporate the Wii control system. Nintendo hasn't had that many FPS titles in the past (especially not relative to the other two).
I'm not too thrilled with the PS3 controller and it's late to the party gyros in it. I'd rather have a redesigned controller more like the 360s (rumble, little heavier, etc).

As for the FPS... look at this!



http://www.joystiq.com/2006/05/10/e3...type-revealed/
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I'm not too thrilled with the PS3 controller and it's late to the party gyros in it. I'd rather have a redesigned controller more like the 360s (rumble, little heavier, etc).

As for the FPS... look at this!



http://www.joystiq.com/2006/05/10/e3...type-revealed/
i was just about to dig that up on IGN and post it. but FPSs should also be fun even without the zapper style shell. with the nunchaku attachment, you still have an analog stick to use and the B trigger on the underside of the wiimote, but the zapper just makes it more realistic.
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Now that's what I wanted to see! I seriously hope there are some good FPS titles because that looks like it would be a lot of fun to play them with. I'm not sure how well it would interface, if at all, but it would also be really fun to play GoldenEye 64 with one of those!
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It's also fair to say that you can't directly compare the PS3 cells to the XBOX360 cells.

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/xbox360_vs_ps3.asp

Does anyone here actually own a XBOX360?
No, but a friend of mine across the steet from me does. (He actually paid $900 for it, plus he has a Dreamcast, GameCube, XboX, PS2, and piles of games for them.... yeah, he's an only child) I spent about 3 days straight playing it over spring break, and spend probably about 6 hours weekly playing it. It is quite nice, Call of Duty, Ghost Recon, and Elder Scrolls are all, IMHO, really good. I really like it's controllers, they aren't really small and tightly packed (my biggest problem with the GameCube) the rumble is nice, they have good heft, and the battery life is quite good. (I've never had one run out of juice on me) The graphics are pretty good, but nothing that has my jaw dropping. (But he doesn't have a hi-def TV, that may be why)
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Does anyone here actually own a XBOX360?
My fiance owns one that might as well be mine too. We had it the day it came out. Its ok...I'm not too into the games that XBOX releases. He loves the graphics...even bought an HDTV for it.

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I think what really makes the PS3 stand out in my mind is seeing some of the screenshots from E3. The graphics are really amazing. They're so lifelike, I can't get over it.
What screenshots? From what I heard all PS3 had to show was CGI movies.

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Does anyone here actually own a XBOX360?
I have had 4 Xbox 360's.

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