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Re: thoughts on myspace

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Apparently there is new legislation in Congress now to block MySpace in all public schools and public libraries across the United States.
MySpace has no place inside a school building or a library, period. Students are in school to learn. Stop posting blogs about that crush you have on Billy Joe or Mary Jane (or worse) and start studying instead.

Outside of that, I agree with the rest of what was posted. Parents - do your dang jobs and pay better attention to what your kids are doing with their free time.

I'd also say that Brandon should write a script that blocks Chit-Chat from any user who's logged on from a school or library computer. Brandon can do that real easy-like, can't you Brandon??????
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Re: thoughts on myspace

One needs to understand in our ever evolving technological society of today, that we have indeed a great digital divide between the generation of this said girl and the parents. Yes, the parents are fully responsible for all of her actions as stated by law as she is a minor. However, within our culture, there is a lot within the Information Environment that must be understood with that older generations may not even know how to turn on the home PC, let alone monitor their child's behavior. Not only with mySpace, but recently Facebook a cross of Public Policy into the Information Environment has occurred with incriminating underage college students who posted photographs of themselves drinking, and conducting in other illegal activities on college campuses. All actions that you take on any of these sites must be taken into consideration with your future. Colleges and potential employers have access to them, and can deny you opportunities based off of the character you portray in your profiles.
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Re: thoughts on myspace

There is a feature on myspace that you can make your profile private.
That means only your friends can see your profile.
That will help, it wont solve it.
I think that myspace is not to blame.
If myspace wasn't there, perverts will find another website that they can stalk kids on.
Even here on ChiefDelphi.
All i need is your picture, and where you live.
If i dint see where you live, and i really want to find you, learn the site.
Find out what those numbers mean by team number.
Then once i find out, look at the FIRST website, find out where that team is at, what school it is, and sit outside of it until i see you.
There is any number of ways that perverts can find you, even without myspace.
So you need to look at what are the other factors, the factors that the people not don't see, but don't want to see.
Those parents and even children, don't want to see that it is also their fault.
It is the parents fault by not watching over their children and seeing what they are doing, they let their kids do what ever they want.
It is the kids fault for posing that they are older then they actually are, agreeing to talk to those people and agreeing at add them and agreeing to meet them.
Tell your kids that if they ever agree to meet any one, they will not be meeting any one except at school and home until they are 24.
Why 24, thats because thats when they leave your insurance when they are a full time student at college.
And you know the way to monitor your kids on myspace or face book or anything like that, you know your child's password, if they change it, they are done till 24.
If they delete their messages, they are done till 24.
That will not solve it.
I grantee it.
But it will help.
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Re: thoughts on myspace

The internet is a scary thing. Whether you're careful or not, its still dangerous. I don't think there's anything wrong with a website that you can talk to your friends with, etc. if you're safe about it, but I am NOT a big fan of myspace.

Do you want to know how much time is wasted over myspace? Ok, granted you're not nearly as obsessed with it than CD , but here, there are adults and students regulating and keeping things safe, but even then, its not completely safe.

Its not just girls younger than 15 putting "revealing" pictures of themselves on their space...I couldn't believe how ridiculous some of it was when I was looking through one's of kids I know. And I'm talking high school seniors and juniors...where you're almost 18.

I'll never forget what my friend, a silly programmer said to me...how he even scared himself of how easy it was to find things out he shouldn't on the internet. Parents need to find a way to explain to their kids how unsafe and unstable the internet can be.

Of course...that's just how I feel.
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Re: thoughts on myspace

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One needs to understand in our ever evolving technological society of today, that we have indeed a great digital divide between the generation of this said girl and the parents. Yes, the parents are fully responsible for all of her actions as stated by law as she is a minor. However, within our culture, there is a lot within the Information Environment that must be understood with that older generations may not even know how to turn on the home PC, let alone monitor their child's behavior. Not only with mySpace, but recently Facebook a cross of Public Policy into the Information Environment has occurred with incriminating underage college students who posted photographs of themselves drinking, and conducting in other illegal activities on college campuses. All actions that you take on any of these sites must be taken into consideration with your future. Colleges and potential employers have access to them, and can deny you opportunities based off of the character you portray in your profiles.
Ashley just nailed it. And technology keeps evolving and developing fast. Crazyfast.
And children are very, very smooth operators. I think a lot of teachers have a better handle on what is happening with the students than the parents do. The teachers keep having to come up with ways to stop the technology from intruding on their classes.
I like what you guys are saying, it's great.
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Re: thoughts on myspace

My thoughts on MySpace:

It has great potential if used properly. It was originally established as a way for bands to create profiles and network. A great idea, IMHO. But once all the wannabe slutty teenage girls got ahold of it, it turned bad. It is not MySpace's fault that people get raped or assaulted by someone they met on MySpace. It also isn't their fault that pedophiles found their way there.

Personally, I must agree with Encyclopędia Dramatica on these few things for which MySpace should be congratulated:
* Autoplaying video clips in profile that never work properly and have to spend 5 minutes disabling.
* Autoplaying music which inevitably starts by surprise at maximum volume.
* Eye-searing color schemes that makes people's text impossible to read, and you'll have to highlight everything in order to read it easier but then realize that it's all s*** nobody cares about.
* Dialup user patience initiative - the bigger the w****, the more hours the page will take to load on dialup.
* Sitewide custom of sending friends requests to strangers without ever contacting the person beforehand.
* People pretending to be television or movie characters, which has never been done before anywhere.
* People who add the fake television or movie characters to their friends list and say "OMG lewk I em phreands with Morpheus LOLZORZ OMG!!!!!!!!!!!111
* Is always b0rked when you want to use it. Always.
* Patented "browser crash upon visit" technology.
* Fun "click the stop button" game on every visit!

The entire article basically sums up everything I believe about MySpace (with some snark thrown in). It's not entirely PC, but it is, of course, Encyclopędia Dramatica. To read the full thing go here.

RE: The girl that was mentioned in the first post of this topic:
It is the sole responsibility of the parents and the girl, especially since she was TWELVE YEARS OLD! I mean, that's well below the minimum age for MySpace, I believe. Yes, it's unfortunate that there are some terrible people out there, but parents can at least protect their children as much as they can by monitoring their children's internet access.
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Re: thoughts on myspace

Regardless of what 'slutty' content may or may not be found on someone's MySpace profile, it is not an invitation for sexual or physical abuse.

Can we, for a second, stop blaming the victims for the crimes of pedophiles? That'd be awesome and it'd chance showing a bit of respect for friends and classmates that may be just as likely vulnerable to internet predators.

MySpace users may not always show the best judgement when sharing information on the site, but divulging that information is not a license to commit a crime.

Sheesh.
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Re: thoughts on myspace

Speaking of banning myspace in schools, this article from Yahoo news is sort of along those lines. Apparently a school board in Illinois has passed legislation to monitor what students involved in extracurricular activities are posting, and can use the "evidence" against them. I'm not sure what I think about that, though I guess if you're going to post it, you should be held accountable.
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Re: thoughts on myspace

Myspace is a good resource when used correctly. Most of my coworkers don't go to college, so they can't have facebook. It gives me a way to communicate with them outside of work.

The problem with myspace is the problem with the rest of the internet. People are dirty. People are perverted. People on the internet are crazy. If they don't meet on myspace, they are meeting in yahoo games, aol chat rooms, msn chats, and the list go on and on.

People also don't take responsibility for their actions, then blame it on something else.

I don't understand how parents don't teach their children enough common sense to know not to talk to strangers on the internet, especially not to meet them.
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Re: thoughts on myspace

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MySpace has no place inside a school building or a library, period. Students are in school to learn. Stop posting blogs about that crush you have on Billy Joe or Mary Jane (or worse) and start studying instead.

Outside of that, I agree with the rest of what was posted. Parents - do your dang jobs and pay better attention to what your kids are doing with their free time.

I'd also say that Brandon should write a script that blocks Chit-Chat from any user who's logged on from a school or library computer. Brandon can do that real easy-like, can't you Brandon??????
What's odd is Myspace is so addictive that kids at my school that barely know how to operate word can use a proxy to get around the web blocker at our school so they can access myspace because so many people want to use it the information gets shared around.

On an unrelated note, my school already blocks both myspace and chiefdelphi at school (kind of annoying during build season, when I say "I'll just look it up on CD", then realise I have to wait until I get home to do it).
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Why do they block ChiefDelphi at school? Because they are scared that you might learn more here than what they can teach you?
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Why do they block ChiefDelphi at school? Because they are scared that you might learn more here than what they can teach you?
this is complety off topic, but since the words "game" or "games" shows up a bit on cd, those fancy autoblockers block it.
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Can we, for a second, stop blaming the victims for the crimes of pedophiles?

MySpace users may not always show the best judgement when sharing information on the site, but divulging that information is not a license to commit a crime.
I don't think we're blaming the victims and excusing the criminals. Rather, we're blaming the lack of judgement that contributes to becoming a victim.

We know there are burglars out there, so we put deadbolt locks on our doors and install alarm systems. We know there are muggers out there, so we watch where we go, especially at night.

Parents also have to watch their children's behavior to protect them from becoming victims, as much as possible. Not paying attention to what kids are doing online is being a negligent parent.
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Re: thoughts on myspace

I'll admit it, I've got a myspace account; Do I whore myself out to be somebody I'm not? No. Do I post partially nude pictures of myself? No. Would I ever post incriminating evidence against myself that could possibly pin me to certain crimes or my job? NO.
I'm 21 now, so alcohol is not as "cool" as it was to drink when i was underage, but those 16-20 year olds who post their pictures of themselves at college keggers need an eye opening. One of my friends did something illegal at college, and wrote a blog about it on his Myspace with pictures; this blog was used as evidence against him in a student council hearing. This kid was eventually thrown out of the dorms for his actions, think of what it would do in the "real world".
On the same matters, did anybody see that news piece about the 23 year old apprentice to an attorney who had nude pictures of himself on his site, and the HR dept. of his firm found these out and canned him. Apparently this kid had like a 4.0 in college and was Valedictorian in his High School, and all because of bad common sense, he lost his potential for a great future. Sure there are other firms out there, but his character is now tarnished.
I use Myspace to see what my friends have on their mind, to read their blogs, and nothing more. I have a few bands on my friends list, and about 7-8 people i don't know on my list. EVERYBODY else are people I know in real life that I met through FIRST or met in Scouting.
IMHO, Myspace.com needs to initiate a credit card verification system, one that will not charge the user, but will be used to verify. It works on other sites, why not Myspace. I would have no issue with giving away my CC information if it meant 12 year old children could not make their profiles; the way I see it, if i can save one person through my actions I would feel accomplished.
On a side note, the radio station I listen to every morning had an internet crimes officer do a segment, and gave some programs parents can use to track their kid's internet activities. On of the neatest things he said was this one software actually keeps a record of every keystroke you input into ANY website. and it's relatively impossible to go around. But this is the parent's responsibility; and nobody has to tell me that parenting has gone down the crapper since my parents were children. Common sense is all these parents must teach their kids, meeting someone from the internet (albeit a safe site lie this) is just plain DUMB. You can't really "meet" the person through the internet, all your meeting is their text.
Let's all understand that Myspace is not going away, so instead of saying it should, lets stand up for the protection of Myspace and make it great.
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Re: thoughts on myspace

You see the problem with making it so you have to have a credit card is that people like me, i don't have one because i am 17.
But my parents were nice enough to teach me to not do stupid stuff.
Not to meet strange people i met on the Internet.
The Internet is a bad place.
And the only reason its bad is because of the people that use it.
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