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Re: Welding with....WATER???

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Originally Posted by Matt H.
-Alright I will offer several rebuttals, however you have neither proven anything nor given us data to disprove.
-The second law of thermodynamics clearly states that you can not get out more energy than you put in. You can not put in 10Kj and get out 15Kj regardless of chemical composition.
-By traditional bonding theories a H-H-O gas can not exist. Using quantum bonding theories hydrogen will only accept 2 valence electrons.
-Mr. Forbes's article is perhaps the most scientific however there are several errors. The numerous graphs were taken using IR measures. Infra-red has been shown to be an inaccurate way to measure any Hydrogen Oxygen combination. The low specific heat of hydrogen burning causes fluctuating and unreliable results. Also the bond the author refers to as HxH-O is not explained fully. I can see no valid scientific reason that polarized hydrogen atoms would bond in such a way.
-As to his remarkable displays of welding technology the same can be achieved much faster with an oxyacetylene torch.

There have been many valid scientific replies to this post Mr. Perkins; you have not rebutted any of them.
Touche, Scientist I am not, however I do believe what I see. You ask me why grass is green, I'll tell you because I percieve it as green, you ask me why water is wet, I'll tell you it's wet because I can feel it. I'll admit first hand, I BARELY passed chemistry in college, so your knowledge of chemistry I assume is better than mine. I saw this article on the news, the news which I BELIEVE 90% of the time shows true articles. What I see gives me all the evidence I need to believe this, yeah you can bludgeon me with calculations and chemical equations of to why this can't be possible, when in fact I am seeing it work. Could this just be an elaborate hoax to something else? Sure, but don't try arguing with a perceptionist. Matt I do appologize if I came across rather rude, and I do appreciate the respect you used for calling me "Mr. Perkins"; I just think sometimes the internet askews one's intent.
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