Go to Post I can attest that mentoring is probably the most important aspect of this program. - Tom Bottiglieri [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > Technical > Technical Discussion
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 30-05-2006, 22:01
DonRotolo's Avatar
DonRotolo DonRotolo is offline
Back to humble
FRC #0832
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Rookie Year: 2005
Location: Atlanta GA
Posts: 7,011
DonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond reputeDonRotolo has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Hex vs. Key

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cory
unlike keys, the hex won't slip.
Nor will it weaken the shaft.

The keyway in a shaft is a stress concentrator, which significantly reduces the strength of the shaft, especially its resistance to breaking under shock loads. Keyways are popular 'cause they're easy, and using a 5/8" shaft where a 3/8" will do isn't an issue if weight is not a consideration.

Einstein says the limit is ~286000 miles per second
Dean says the limit is 120 lbs.

Don
__________________

I am N2IRZ - What's your callsign?
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 30-05-2006, 23:03
Salik Syed Salik Syed is offline
Registered User
FRC #0701 (RoboVikes)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Rookie Year: 2001
Location: Stanford CA.
Posts: 514
Salik Syed has much to be proud ofSalik Syed has much to be proud ofSalik Syed has much to be proud ofSalik Syed has much to be proud ofSalik Syed has much to be proud ofSalik Syed has much to be proud ofSalik Syed has much to be proud ofSalik Syed has much to be proud ofSalik Syed has much to be proud of
Send a message via AIM to Salik Syed
Re: Hex vs. Key

isn't the speed of light closer to 186,000 miles per second...

but regardless.... I think key does pose alot more problems... i think hex shaft would significantly reduce maintainance and wear issues... we have lots of problems with keys walking out, shafts getting worn
if you have the tools i would think hex is the way to go

i wouldn't know but i do know that key kinda sucks
__________________
Team 701
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 31-05-2006, 09:31
Richard Wallace's Avatar
Richard Wallace Richard Wallace is offline
I live for the details.
FRC #3620 (Average Joes)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Rookie Year: 1996
Location: Southwestern Michigan
Posts: 3,663
Richard Wallace has a reputation beyond reputeRichard Wallace has a reputation beyond reputeRichard Wallace has a reputation beyond reputeRichard Wallace has a reputation beyond reputeRichard Wallace has a reputation beyond reputeRichard Wallace has a reputation beyond reputeRichard Wallace has a reputation beyond reputeRichard Wallace has a reputation beyond reputeRichard Wallace has a reputation beyond reputeRichard Wallace has a reputation beyond reputeRichard Wallace has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Hex vs. Key

Quote:
Originally Posted by Salik Syed
isn't the speed of light closer to 186,000 miles per second...
Wikipedia sez: According to the currently prevailing definition, adopted in 1983, the speed of light <in vacuum> is exactly 299,792,458 metres per second. Since 1 mile = ~1.609344 kilometers, the speed of light is about 186,282.4 miles per second, or in more convenient units about 0.983571 feet per nanosecond. [digression] This gives an upper bound for the speed at which information can be transported using electromagnetism; e.g., lightguide. Actual transmission speed in fiber optic cable is about 30% slower than this, because the fiber has greater electrical permittivity than free space. [/digression]

Short FIRST-friendly summary: remember, Aluminum weighs about one-tenth of a pound per cubic inch, and light travels about one foot per nanosecond. The second approximation has almost no practical significance for FRC robot building. So back to the main topic now:
Quote:
but regardless.... I think key does pose alot more problems... i think hex shaft would significantly reduce maintainance and wear issues... we have lots of problems with keys walking out, shafts getting worn
if you have the tools i would think hex is the way to go

i wouldn't know but i do know that key kinda sucks
We've been using keys for several years. I'll be ordering a 3/8" hex broach soon. Summer is the time to practice new tricks.
__________________
Richard Wallace

Mentor since 2011 for FRC 3620 Average Joes (St. Joseph, Michigan)
Mentor 2002-10 for FRC 931 Perpetual Chaos (St. Louis, Missouri)
since 2003

I believe in intuition and inspiration. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination embraces the entire world, stimulating progress, giving birth to evolution. It is, strictly speaking, a real factor in scientific research.
(Cosmic Religion : With Other Opinions and Aphorisms (1931) by Albert Einstein, p. 97)
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 31-05-2006, 22:37
Gabe's Avatar
Gabe Gabe is offline
Pocket Full of Tools
FRC #0604 (Quixilver)
Team Role: College Student
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Rookie Year: 2001
Location: California
Posts: 654
Gabe has a reputation beyond reputeGabe has a reputation beyond reputeGabe has a reputation beyond reputeGabe has a reputation beyond reputeGabe has a reputation beyond reputeGabe has a reputation beyond reputeGabe has a reputation beyond reputeGabe has a reputation beyond reputeGabe has a reputation beyond reputeGabe has a reputation beyond reputeGabe has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Hex vs. Key

Machanically speaking, a spline shaft is the best, but that is really hard to get and it is really hard to broach matching splines without laying out some money.
__________________
Team site: Q U I X I L V E R
My favorite tool is my imagination; I’m always finding new ways to use it.
Closed Thread


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Hex Broach Options? Andrew Blair Technical Discussion 31 25-08-2006 21:12
Hex Couplers Chris 481 Technical Discussion 9 03-04-2006 20:49
Hex file downloads Ryan M. Control System 2 29-10-2005 19:50
HEX CRAWLER... Arefin Bari Chit-Chat 3 01-05-2004 00:12
Hex key sizes archiver 2001 3 24-06-2002 01:21


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:23.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi