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Unread 01-06-2006, 16:21
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Re: What would you say to newer members of the CD community?

Try to remember that you represent your self, your team, your teacher/mentor, your school, and FIRST when you post in CD. There is no getting around it. Tolerance, forgiveness, humor, and lessons learned are tools we can find here.
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Re: What would you say to newer members of the CD community?

These are all great ideas, and definately should go in the sticky "Read this First" category.

I would also like to see some how-to's for folks who are new to the whole forum concept. When you decide to reply to a post what are all those buttons? What do the response fomatting icons really do? What is a PHP tag? The big thing I have searched for is the how-to on adding quotes to your responses. I can make the shaded box, but where does the "originally quoted by" come from?

And it took me forever to realize that if you click on a photo in a post that was "automatically generated..." it takes you to CDMedia and the caption of the photo is there. Is this written somewhere? And yes, I've looked!

And I'd love one on signatures. The rules are scattered everywhere. Not too big, user bars ... but I can't find anything on the basics.

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Re: What would you say to newer members of the CD community?

Slow down and think before you post, this isn't like most other forums. People here are likely to see you at some point or another, don't give them a reason not to like you. Keep the smilies to a minimum, they aren't there to replace text, they are there to enhance emotions that cannot be shown easily with text.
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Re: What would you say to newer members of the CD community?

I'd probably tell the new members to wait a few days after they join to just poke around and look at the content of the forums, what threads go where, when to start a new thread, etc.

Like Morgan (MercuryRising) said, CD isn't like most other forums. You are on here representing yourself, your team, your sponsor(s), and FIRST.

It has been said time and time again, and it is the one thing rookies should always remember: Think before you post!!

EDIT: I'd also tell them that separate paragraphs are good. It makes everything so much easier to read instead of having one giant paragraph.
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Re: What would you say to newer members of the CD community?

#1 rule: DO NOT LET A NEGATIVE REP DRIVE YOU AWAY! If you mess up, guess what, it happens. I got a negative rep as my third rep. It's no big deal. Learn from it, PM them back and ask what you did wrong.

#2: Be respectful. A lot of the people on here are very, very intelligent people. They deserve respect for that. They also volunteer a lot of time to this program. They deserve it for that too. And a million other reasons that I will not list. If you care to debate a point they've made, do not name-call or insult. Make your point, back it up as solidly as you can and be done with it.

#3: It's been said already but it's important to say it again. "What you say or do can and will be used against"(/for) your team in the future. If you come on here and represent yourself poorly, people will note what team you're from. It's going to happen, if you intend it to or not, even if you write a little disclaimer at the bottom. If you're a flaming jerk, people will think of your team as the flaming jerks. That is not a reputation that you want.

#4: Don't be afraid to share your knowledge and opinions! We want you here! Promise! Every person in FIRST has something to share, something to contribute. Be it your extensive engineering knowledge, or your way with sponsors, your team includes you on the roster for a reason. Find your place and shine!
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Re: What would you say to newer members of the CD community?

I was going to write "abandon hope all ye who enter here," but the rest of you are all serious and stuff. Furrfu.

(Bonus points for understanding "furrfu.")

Seriously, you could do a lot worse than following the old Usenet posting guidelines: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/posting-rules/part1/. It's an amazing document from the kinder, gentler, smarter days of the Internet.
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Re: What would you say to newer members of the CD community?

Watch and learn: Watch other posters on the forum over a few days and look at how they act by example. Its the way that I have learned within my first year on CD, and it has made it a lot easier for me.
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Re: What would you say to newer members of the CD community?

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I'd probably tell the new members to wait a few days after they join to just poke around and look at the content of the forums, what threads go where, when to start a new thread, etc.

Like Morgan (MercuryRising) said, CD isn't like most other forums. You are on here representing yourself, your team, your sponsor(s), and FIRST.

It has been said time and time again, and it is the one thing rookies should always remember: Think before you post!!

EDIT: I'd also tell them that separate paragraphs are good. It makes everything so much easier to read instead of having one giant paragraph.
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Re: What would you say to newer members of the CD community?

Some of the threads will get very long, like this one (almost 300 posts...):

Championship location from 07 and onwards

Before you post to threads like this, take the time to read the other posts. If you're not planning to offer something new to the thread, don't post to it. If it's already been said, you're not contributing to the discussion. (I admit that in this thread, I refer to my own posts made earlier - a year earlier. I did that to illustrate that the thread was rehashing prior discussion).

Maybe the reputation system can include a "signal-to-noise" meter for its members. A member with a gazillion posts and relatively few reputation points is what I'd consider a "noise source". Whereas a member with high rep points and relatively few posts, is generally contributing "signal" - messages that have something (i.e. insight, perspective, and/or solutions) to offer to the readers. A really simple metric would be reputation points divided by number of posts...
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Re: What would you say to newer members of the CD community?

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I would also like to see some how-to's for folks who are new to the whole forum concept. When you decide to reply to a post what are all those buttons? What do the response fomatting icons really do? What is a PHP tag? The big thing I have searched for is the how-to on adding quotes to your responses. I can make the shaded box, but where does the "originally quoted by" come from?
I took me several months to discover all the features on these forums. I've started working on a Hitchhiker's Guide to Chief Delphi that goes and explains what anything and everything does with screenshots of the many of the features. So far I have about three pages written. The paper would focus on learning all the feaures of Chief Delphi, like learning what all the buttons do in the posting area do, how to do all the profile settings/avatar/who am i?, what UFH and WFA are, about CD-Media, CD-Swap, and CD-Event, what the spotlight list is, what is appropiate for signatures and avatars, etc. Almost like a giant orientation video.

To help answer your question, the PHP tags are only need if you have PHP code to post. The PHP tag will color-code the PHP code depending on it's syntax. Here is an example use of the PHP tag:
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/**
 * Directory File Size Generator
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$totalsize 0;
function 
getDirectorySize($dir$pos=2){ 
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$handle = @opendir($dir); 
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is_dir($dir.$file)){ 
        
getDirectorySize("$dir.$file/"$pos+3); 
    }else{ 
        
$size=filesize($dir.$file); 
            
$totalsize=$totalsize+$size
        }    } 
    @
closedir($handle); 
    return 
$totalsize;
?>
And here is how you get the "originally posted by" in the grey quote box:
Quote:
Originally Posted by username
Their quoted text.
If you want to see exactly how these were used, click the at the bottom right part of this quote in order to see the code used.
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Re: What would you say to newer members of the CD community?

Be concise.

Become nice.

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Re: What would you say to newer members of the CD community?

Probably shouldn't be posting here since I'm new myself...

But I've noticed that I tend to skip massive posts because I'm too lazy to read that much. (Accept of course when I posted the thread and I want to read everyone's posts/advice)

I'm not saying that people who post massive texts have nothing important to say. I'm just saying your thoughts are not likely going to get heard (at least by me they're not).
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Re: What would you say to newer members of the CD community?

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And here is how you get the "originally posted by" in the grey quote box:
If you want to see exactly how these were used, click the at the bottom right part of this quote in order to see the code used.

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Re: What would you say to newer members of the CD community?

My advice would be for them to look at and read the descriptions of each area in the forums list. This is an easy way to get to know the place and you might find the area where your post needs to go. Also I would tell them don't feel intimidated if someone with 700-800 or even 1000 posts disagrees with one of your thoughts. It can be very discouraging if it happens, but you don't need to go and avoid subjects because it happened once. The old saying of "when you fall of the horse, you've got to get right back on" is what you need to do.

I know it say it in the rules of posting, but I think it needs to be said and applies to everyone. If you just agree with some one, don't just quote them and say "I agree". In the rules it says that if your post doesn't ad anything to the discussion, then you shouldn't post it. Its not a BIG problem, but the little times when it happens is when its annoying.

This next one isn't for the new people, but for the people who will say "search before you post" or "this is in the wrong place" and thats all they say. Most of the new people on the forums don't get past the General Forum until they have explored the site a bit. Once that happens, it goes down a lot.

About the half a page posts, I usually wait until I have the time to look at and read them if its on a subject I want to read about. I agree that its easier to read them when you have posted in the thread.

This is a great thread to have because we can gather advice from people who have been on here scene the start and people who have only been here a year or less.
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